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RE: Britain Today - 727Sky - 09-02-2025
RE: Britain Today - Ninurta - 09-02-2025
(09-02-2025, 05:37 AM)727Sky Wrote:
Interesting video. What stood out to me the most was the phrase "a dangerous move towards Far-Right nationalism". That's interesting on several levels to me, but it does go along with a political theory I've been batting around lately - that "communism" never really left us, it just changed it's name to "globalism" and started picking up steam. I may more fully develop that theory in another thread later, but for the time being I find it odd that people are seeing "nationalism" as "dangerous" - it hasn't been 30 years ago that was the patriotic norm... but now the world has slid so far Left into Globalism that it is now seen as "dangerous". I have to ask myself - dangerous to WHOM?
Nationalism has always been a dangerous thing to communists (since communists were collectivists, and had designs on global domination, which is hard to accomplish with nationalistic fervor insisting on borders), but now it appears that, since the Globalists have donned that collectivist mantle, it's now dangerous to Globalists.
And rightfully so... but how have they managed to convince the proletariat masses to view patriotism - i.e. what they are calling "nationalism" - as a "dangerous" thing? The answer, as is so often the case, is a "legacy media" campaign. We KNOW who controls the legacy media, and just as Orwell forecast in his writings, it has proven to be an effective propaganda organ.
People only"know" what they are told, and as the older patriotic generations die off, all they are being told is what the legacy media - i.e. TPTB - wants them to hear and believe.
Orwell would be proud of them... or, perhaps, simply aghast that they actually fell for it.
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RE: Britain Today - Minstrel - 09-03-2025
(09-02-2025, 12:23 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(09-02-2025, 05:37 AM)727Sky Wrote:
Interesting video. What stood out to me the most was the phrase "a dangerous move towards Far-Right nationalism". That's interesting on several levels to me, but it does go along with a political theory I've been batting around lately - that "communism" never really left us, it just changed it's name to "globalism" and started picking up steam. I may more fully develop that theory in another thread later, but for the time being I find it odd that people are seeing "nationalism" as "dangerous" - it hasn't been 30 years ago that was the patriotic norm... but now the world has slid so far Left into Globalism that it is now seen as "dangerous". I have to ask myself - dangerous to WHOM?
Nationalism has always been a dangerous thing to communists (since communists were collectivists, and had designs on global domination, which is hard to accomplish with nationalistic fervor insisting on borders), but now it appears that, since the Globalists have donned that collectivist mantle, it's now dangerous to Globalists.
And rightfully so... but how have they managed to convince the proletariat masses to view patriotism - i.e. what they are calling "nationalism" - as a "dangerous" thing? The answer, as is so often the case, is a "legacy media" campaign. We KNOW who controls the legacy media, and just as Orwell forecast in his writings, it has proven to be an effective propaganda organ.
People only"know" what they are told, and as the older patriotic generations die off, all they are being told is what the legacy media - i.e. TPTB - wants them to hear and believe.
Orwell would be proud of them... or, perhaps, simply aghast that they actually fell for it.
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"...dangerous move towards Far-Right nationalism"
A foreigner lashing at other foreigners, as if they/we are all the same.
No unique flavors, scents, cuisines.
Why is globalism so prevalent with the 'rich' and 'accomplished'?
Because they want it...all.
They (*) must erase the past, to make space for the future they desire.
Just as in Rush's "2112", all distinctions of the past are banished into the new soup/s of homogenized humanity.
Think you'll ever hear "Stairway to Heaven", again? ..."Free Bird"...?
They have ears in everything...if they want them.
Just waiting for AI to develop an all-hearing Ear, and all-seeing Eye.
They will shut you down.
(Perhaps, not 'you' - but the majority of the rest of us - shut down.)
As you say - they can change the meaning of anything, with their 'legacy' mouthpieces.
The only shot we have at maintaining our individual sovereignty and national sovereignty, at this time, may be to keep 'Nationalism' in focus.
Nationalism & Patriotism do seem to walk side by side.
The only 'pride' I have in my country's history, comes in the form of highlights...
I do not find our 'form of government', or 'constitution'...or 'peoples'...to be sacred (or inspired by the/a better god)...aside from the fact that we are still fighting for our lives.
When I die, do I go as the 'lowly' ant...unnoticed, easily forgotten... Or, was/is there something 'more' to being me?
Is there something about me/You worth fighting for --- Something 'holy', as we (many) have been told?
If not, 'sovereignty' will be the next badge of humanity to vanish.
Ever been owned?
Like in the military?
(*Communists/Globalists)
RE: Britain Today - Ninurta - 09-03-2025
(09-03-2025, 04:33 AM)Minstrel Wrote: "...dangerous move towards Far-Right nationalism"
A foreigner lashing at other foreigners, as if they/we are all the same.
No unique flavors, scents, cuisines.
Why is globalism so prevalent with the 'rich' and 'accomplished'?
Because they want it...all.
They (*) must erase the past, to make space for the future they desire.
Just as in Rush's "2112", all distinctions of the past are banished into the new soup/s of homogenized humanity.
...
I'm warming to the idea that "Globalism" is just rebranding of "Communism" which was just a rebranding of "Feudalism" - all are basically the same pyramid scheme where "elites" rule from the top, and figure out how to get the peons to "get it all" FOR them.
The WEF = The central Planning Committee = The Manor Lords. Their job is to convince The Peons / Proletariat / Peasants to stay put in one place, keep their noses to the grindstone, and work hard to get what the Elites want FOR them, so the Elites don't have to get up off their asses and get it for themselves.
All the while, they must find innovative ways to make the Peons / Proletariat / Peasants think that they are really working for their own betterment... but somehow, that slice of Heaven never works it's way down to the masses. Everything good flows upward, and benefits the Elites.
That is the entire schema of all forms of Collectivism, be it Feudalism, Communism... or Globalism. Karl Marx's goal was not "equality" or "egalitarianism", it was figuring out the triggers to get the masses to do HIS bidding, and disguising that as equality and egalitarianism. The same is true of Klaus Schwab and his cohorts, just as it was true of the Manor Lords of old.
The ONLY counter against that plan is to maintain one's own individual and national sovereignty - Nationalism and personal sovereignty is the only cure for being "kept down by The Man". That is why it is so much under attack under all forms of Collectivism.
It's not "for the children", it is, and always has been,"for the Elites".
Our job is not to buy into that bullshit.
It's an up hill battle, especially when "they" have all the propaganda organs all sewed up and on their side.
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RE: Britain Today - F2d5thCav - 09-03-2025
Re: globalists and the rich
Once had a Moroccan tell me a pearl of wisdom. He said the rich of the world belong to no nation except their own: that of the rich. He was absolutely correct, wealthy guys like Trump who actually give a toss about a particular country are indeed rare.
RE: Britain Today - 727Sky - 09-04-2025
Every Tyrant/tyrannical government strives to pass laws and apply pressure to those who disagree with the Tyrant's objectives.
RE: Britain Today - gortex - 09-04-2025
(08-30-2025, 05:10 PM)gortex Wrote: Deputy PM Angela Rayner's decision to buy a second home costing £800,000 raised a few eyebrows with some asking how she could afford such a thing on the money she earns but now it's raising potentially embarrassing questions about why she used a loop hole in the law to deprive the Treasury of £30,000 in second home tax after it emerged that she legally removed her name from the deeds of her first house.
The scumbaggery of this government knows no bounds.
"Do as we say not as we do"
Update.
Deputy PM and Housing secretary Angela Rayner is currently under investigation by the Parliamentary Standards watchdog over the claim she avoided paying £40,000 in tax on her new property , Starmer said today said he is "expecting the result of an investigation into stamp duty paid by Angela Rayner "quickly" so I guess we can guess the result.
Cabinet colleagues have been sent out to TV studios to do a bit of fire fighting but the Tories have called for the inland revenue to investigate.
Angela Rayner in 2022 responding to allegations of Tory tax avoidance.
“every pound hidden in tax havens is a pound lost from the pockets of working families”.
Yeah , 40,000 of them Ange.
RE: Britain Today - gortex - 09-05-2025
Update on the update.
Deputy PM Angela Rayner finally resigned today prompting smiles and cheers from many in this Country following the report into her Tax Evasion being handed to the PM this morning , the Standards watchdog found Rayner had broken the Ministerial code of conduct by cheating the exchequer out of £40,000 in second property tax, another piece of good news is Starmer has reshuffled his cabinet and the continually failing "smash the gangs" Cooper has been shuffled out of the Home Office to become foreign secretary which in Parliamentary terms is a demotion.
Bad news from the reshuffle is the man regarded by many in the Commons and the Country as Stupid is to become the new Deputy PM which basically means he's been side-lined .... even worse news is our new Home Secretary is Shabana Mahmood who as justice minister is the idiot behind letting criminals out after just 40% of their sentence and the proposed banning of prison sentences of less than 12 months.
This government will continue to limp on and make promises but with their party conference due later this month and the Welsh elections next May which they're forecast to lose , Labour has held Wales since the Welsh parliament was started in 1998 , the end for this government is in sight.
Farage opens the Reform UK party conference and takes a pop at Labour after the perfectly timed resignation of Angela Rayner.
Wales will be key.
RE: Britain Today - gortex - 09-06-2025
The resignation of Rayner seems to have led to Starmer showing how few cards he actually has , he seems to be keeping his inner circle close and there don't seem to be many of them which would explain why the unelected Dame Angela Eagle who completely failed (by intention) in her job as "border security and asylum minister" has rather than being sacked has been moved to the environment department , not sue doing what but creating BS as a Biofuel is likely.
The rumblings of the reshuffle continue with sound of deckchairs being frantically moved on the sinking ship almost audible.
Lucy Connolly has spoken at the Reform Conference.
Quote:In what was quite a candid interview, she shared her experience with the justice system.
Connolly went on to say she wants to "work with Reform" in the future - to rapturous cheers and applause from the audience.
Her case was highlighted by the party as a free speech issue, with Reform saying that people should not be imprisoned for social media posts.
At one point, Connolly was asked about a Labour councillor who was cleared of hate speech, she said: "He was an idiot, I was an idiot," - and both were acting on "emotion".
When she was asked what she wanted to do in the future, Connolly said she wanted to use her time in prison to improve it.
She said, for example, that the way in which she was arrested and charged over a weekend made it harder for her to get good legal advice.
Connolly also said she didn't want to build more prisons, but make the current estate work better.
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-angela-rayner-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-reform-12593360
Seems like a perfect candidate for Reform's prisons advisor.
RE: Britain Today - BIAD - 09-07-2025
I've heard that down through the ages, folk in the UK enjoy some of the oddest of pastimes,
but with the interjection of multiculturism, those harmless hobbies may be changing...
RE: Britain Today - gortex - 09-11-2025
Today Sir Kier Stalin lost his second high profile appointee , last week Deputy PM Angela Rayner resigned due to scumminess and today former master of the Dark Arts and Britain's (former) Ambassador to the USA Peter Mandelson has been fired due to scumminess involving his relationship with "best pall" Jeffrey Epstein.
Yesterday in the House at Prime Minister's question time Sir Kier Thick as a Brick Starmer pledged his full support to Mandelson as just as a week before he said he was "proud to be sat nest to" Angela Rayner , both now are gone within a week of each other exposing Starmer's chronically bad judgement.
Now questions are being asked by opposition parties about the security vetting process involved in Mandy's appointment and requests are being made for emails and associated paperwork regarding the appointment.
Quote:The security services expressed concern about the appointment of Lord Mandelson as ambassador to Washington, but No 10 went ahead anyway, Sky News understands.Personal disclosure : I hate Mandy have done since his time in the Blair government so this is like Christmas come early.
Downing Street today defended the extensive vetting process which senior civil servants go through in order to get jobs, raising questions about whether or not they missed something or No 10 ignored their advice.
Sky News has been told by two sources that the security services did flag concerns as part of the process.
No 10 did not judge these concerns as enough to stop the ambassadorial appointment.
https://news.sky.com/story/no-10-appointed-mandelson-despite-security-concerns-sky-news-understands-13428814
This government is stumbling so badly soon it will fall.
RE: Britain Today - BIAD - 09-11-2025
(09-11-2025, 04:56 PM)gortex Wrote: Today Sir Kier Stalin lost his second high profile appointee , last week Deputy PM Angela Rayner resigned due to scumminess and today former master of the Dark Arts and Britain's (former) Ambassador to the USA Peter Mandelson has been fired due to scumminess involving his relationship with "best pall" Jeffrey Epstein...
'Mandy'-Mandelson has had to resign several times due to his habit of rolling in corruption.
RE: Britain Today - gortex - 09-15-2025
Today Reform UK expanded its number of MPs by 1 as they've captured a sitting MP for the first time. Conservative shadow work and pensions minister Danny Kruger (no relation to Freddy) has jumped ship to reform stating the Conservative party is over.
Quote:Announcing his defection, Mr Kruger said: "The Conservative Party is over, over as a national party, over as the principal opposition to the Left.
"But I am not despondent because conservatism is not over. It's never been needed more. And actually, it's never been more vibrant.
"Because the failure of the Conservative Party has created space for an alternative. The flame is passing from one torch to another."
He said his defection is "very painful" but added: "I'm leaving because I think the party is over."
https://news.sky.com/story/danny-kruger-becomes-latest-tory-mp-to-defect-to-reform-13431586
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Welcome aboard ship mate , now swab them decks.
Breaking news , the Speaker of the House has granted a Conservative request for an emergency debate over the Mandelson / Epstein scandal in an effort to get the government to release details of what they and Starmer knew and when which could show Starmer lied in Parliament which would make him toast.
Debate has been scheduled for tomorrow so not long to wait.
Anyone hear the sound of bells tolling ?
Quote:The Speaker has granted permission for an emergency debate on the appointment and vetting of Peter Mandelson, which the Conservatives hope to use to increase pressure on the government to publish all the documents to do with this.”
The government has so far declined to release the details of the vetting that the Labour peer underwent before he was appointed as the UK's ambassador to the US.
The Tories pledged to use parliamentary procedure to change this, and David Davis just asked Lindsay Hoyle for permission to do this.
He has now granted it - in a further blow for the PM.
The debate will be held tomorrow and last for a maximum of three hours, Sir Lindsay Hoyle has said.
It will begin at 12:30pm, it is understood - as it will be "the first item of public business".
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-angela-rayner-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-reform-12593360
