(08-29-2025, 04:32 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote:

(07-17-2025, 09:40 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote:

(07-16-2025, 11:26 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Detonation of all those atomic and nuclear weapons decades ago are now bearing wormy fruit.

Question for Gortex.

Which star is 80 light years distant and considered a candidate to have planets that could support life ?

80 years since Trinity Test.

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I'm assuming you know of this, I was not, at least not off the top of my mind so did a quick search and found...

The star HD 156668, located approximately 80 light-years away, is noted for hosting a "super-Earth" exoplanet, HD 156668b, with a mass about four times that of Earth. This planet was detected in 2010 and is described as orbiting much closer to its star than Earth does to the Sun, resulting in high temperatures (1,200–1,648°C). Due to these extreme conditions, it is unlikely to support life as we know it, despite its "super-Earth" classification.

For stars slightly closer or farther, more promising candidates: Gliese 12, about 40 light-years away, hosts Gliese 12 b, an Earth-sized exoplanet in the habitable zone of its red dwarf star, with a surface temperature around 42°C, making it a strong candidate for potential habitability.

L 98-59, 35 light-years away, has a super-Earth, L 98-59 f, in its habitable zone, receiving similar stellar energy to Earth, suggesting conditions where liquid water could exist.

Course that doesn't mean there is not one similar to Earth 80 light years distant; just we haven't yet detected one.

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00:00 The Discovery of 3I Atlas
12:21 Avi Loeb's Perspective on Alien Technology
25:25 The Fermi Paradox and Dark Forest Theory
37:30 The Implications of Hypervelocity Impacts
42:08 The Enigmatic Nature of 3I Atlas
45:02 Orbital Dynamics and Intercept Challenges
52:57 Potential Missions and Future Opportunities
56:47 Natural vs. Technological Origins
01:01:15 Close Encounters and Impact Probabilities
01:09:54 Conclusions and Future Implications

Avi Loeb's 13-page Paper

(08-29-2025, 08:52 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Kenzo, I propose a perfectly human response.  Let's fire a missile tipped with a thermonuclear warhead at it. 

Quote:A new paper on spectroscopic data from the Very Large Telescope (accessible here) reported the surprising detection of nickel without iron in the plume of gas around 3I/ATLAS. Nickel without iron is a signature of industrial production of nickel alloys. This data constitutes a new anomaly of 3I/ATLAS. Natural comets generically show iron and nickel simultaneously, as both elements are produced together in the ejecta of supernova explosions.

Is this anomaly another clue for a possible technological origin of 3I/ATLAS? The paper suggests chemical formation through the nickel carbonyl channel which is an extremely rare and exotic possibility in comets, whereas it is a standard technology for industrial nickel refining.
The inferred mass loss rate of nickel for 3I/ATLAS is about 5 grams per second at a heliocentric distance of 2.8 times the Earth-Sun separation (AU). It exhibits a dramatic rise with decreasing distance from the sun, with a power-law index of -8.43 (+/-0.79).

The spectroscopic data on the plume surrounding 3I/ATLAS also reveals cyanide (CN), with a mass loss rate of about 20 grams per second at 2.85 AU and an even steeper dependence on heliocentric distance to the power of -9.38 (+/-1.2).

https://avi-loeb.medium.com/a-steeply-rising-production-of-cyanide-and-nickel-without-iron-in-the-gas-plume-around-3i-atlas-536e20674303

(08-30-2025, 02:02 PM)gortex Wrote: Data from another in the line of telescopes looking at 3I/Atlas has been released and in line with the others the Very Large Telescope based in the Atacama Desert has found its own anomalies.

Quote:A new paper on spectroscopic data from the Very Large Telescope (accessible here) reported the surprising detection of nickel without iron in the plume of gas around 3I/ATLAS. Nickel without iron is a signature of industrial production of nickel alloys. This data constitutes a new anomaly of 3I/ATLAS. Natural comets generically show iron and nickel simultaneously, as both elements are produced together in the ejecta of supernova explosions.

Is this anomaly another clue for a possible technological origin of 3I/ATLAS? The paper suggests chemical formation through the nickel carbonyl channel which is an extremely rare and exotic possibility in comets, whereas it is a standard technology for industrial nickel refining.
The inferred mass loss rate of nickel for 3I/ATLAS is about 5 grams per second at a heliocentric distance of 2.8 times the Earth-Sun separation (AU). It exhibits a dramatic rise with decreasing distance from the sun, with a power-law index of -8.43 (+/-0.79).

The spectroscopic data on the plume surrounding 3I/ATLAS also reveals cyanide (CN), with a mass loss rate of about 20 grams per second at 2.85 AU and an even steeper dependence on heliocentric distance to the power of -9.38 (+/-1.2).

https://avi-loeb.medium.com/a-steeply-rising-production-of-cyanide-and-nickel-without-iron-in-the-gas-plume-around-3i-atlas-536e20674303

The luminosity of the object is still causing problems , is its brightness due it being even bigger than we thought or could it be producing its own light ? , questions I'm sure will be answered before perihelium ... or perhaps shortly after when it changes course and takes up orbit.

Quote:Maybe an alien mining/refining platform?

(08-30-2025, 04:55 PM)gortex Wrote:

Quote:Maybe an alien mining/refining platform?

Slipped its leash perhaps and gone a roaming ?

(09-02-2025, 04:48 PM)gortex Wrote: Here's one to ponder , 3I/Atlas is approaching from the direction of the Sagittarius constellation which just happens to be where the 1977 WOW ! signal is believed to have originated from .... Hmmmmm.

"Greetings people of blue planet , we send gift"

(09-02-2025, 07:00 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: More like, "Greetings, and, Farewell, from the federated galactic civilizations ... fear not, your end will be so swift as to be without pain."

I'll bet the observatory at the Vatican has eyes on this one ... " <gulp> someone tell the top dog it REALLY is time to reveal the Third Secret of Fatima!! "

Quote:It's for this reason that we now know the first known glimpse of 3I/ATLAS took place back in May, nearly two full months before the official discovery. The comet was moving a lot faster than the targets TESS is designed to study, so researchers had to use some image-stacking techniques to reveal it.

This is where it gets interesting. The TESS data suggest that the comet was already active at that time, at a distance of around 6 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun – out past the orbit of Jupiter. That's a much greater distance than expected: most comets begin showing activity no closer than 5 AU from the Sun.

https://www.sciencealert.com/4-powerful-telescopes-agree-interstellar-comet-3i-atlas-really-is-bizarre

(09-06-2025, 01:55 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Thing looks more like a small star with a flaming corona.  How odd.