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RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-05-2025

Quote:In this video, examines growing public anger in China, focusing on rising protests, democracy calls, and the impact of Xi Jinping’s leadership. It references the crackdown on dissent, highlighting single-person demonstrations (like Chengdu’s “bridge banners”) and major protest movements, including the earlier Hong Kong uprisings. The text ties Xi’s internal clampdown to economic stresses—particularly the deflating real estate sector, youth unemployment, and the foreign trade tensions that have weakened the once-strong Chinese economy. It portrays how the public’s frustration with inflation and job scarcity fuels demands for reforms, culminating in signs of deeper turmoil. Comparisons are drawn to the historical patterns of purges, alluding to Stalin’s approach, and Xi’s potential vulnerability despite his power. This narrative suggests that discontent runs through every level of society: from disillusioned youth to overextended families facing precarious finances. Ultimately, it posits that China’s centralized, autocratic system could face mounting instability as voices for democracy and economic redress intensify, raising questions about Xi’s long-term hold on power.




I have wondered why stuff China has built is falling apart ... Anything with Chinese concrete and rebar has has a big problem,,, They dredge sand from the ocean (think salt corrosion ) and build bridges and building with the stuff and as determined with the collapse of the high rise (made by China) in Bangkok the Chinese rebar is junk.



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-05-2025

Maybe just happenstance or maybe owners are burning building for the insurance money ???



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-10-2025




RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-12-2025

I keep waiting for the super crack down on the people or the people finally grow a pair and kick the CCP out of power.. If countries stop buying Chinese junk then China's future is grim IMO.



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-13-2025




RE: The clock is ticking for China - F2d5thCav - 05-13-2025

That Pakistani dude looks like the actor who portrayed Hitler in "Downfall".

MinusculeCheers


RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-16-2025


If you worked for a few or many months without pay what would you do ? Then after being owed the company shuts down and the owner is no where to be found.

Xi and his regime had to make a deal with the USA on trade however regardless of what the Chinese propaganda mill says there is still around 50% tariffs on a number of Chinese goods.

It is about time someone could stand against the CCP communist idiots and make them bend a knee.


RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-19-2025

Between COVID's return and the White lung virus that kills people China is one sick country. Because many countries welcome the Chinese money and tourist standby... They are reporting 16,000 cases down south in Phuket  and other touristy places etc etc around here.



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-19-2025




RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-24-2025




RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 05-30-2025

How many times have we seen or heard reports of massive flooding in China ? 



RE: The clock is ticking for China - Bally002 - 05-30-2025

(05-30-2025, 12:10 PM)727Sky Wrote: How many times have we seen or heard reports of massive flooding in China ? 

Strewth.  The floods we had here pale in comparison and they were huge for us.

Bally


RE: The clock is ticking for China - FCD - 05-30-2025

So many thoughts here...

I guess I'll just break them up into bullet points.
  • Nothing happens fast in China.  It's why their history goes back thousands of years.  Having spent much time in China personally, their whole culture revolves around unrelenting pressure to 'bend', not to 'break'.  It's in their DNA, their psychological construct.  After you spend some time in China working with the Chinese you begin to see this and, once you recognize it for what it is, you'll see it everywhere, in every walk of life.

  • As others have noted, communism in China is a relatively new thing.  China existed as a nation for thousands of years before communism.  Communism will not be the last form of governance in China, nor will the next thing after it.  Nor the next after that.

  • This most recent crisis is different from crises in the past.  Historically, the Chinese people were very self-sufficient throughout antiquity.  This is not true today, especially in the larger cities of China.  People are much more dependent on the government to survive now, and this is why communism has 'sort of' worked in China up until now. 

  • Communism will ultimately fail in China for the same reasons it always fails.  It will fail because there is nowhere left to hide the debt.  Communism works for a while when there is still financial liquidity in the country.  Money, and in particular, debt, can be 'hidden' in things like infrastructure projects and social programs, etc.  But eventually this money runs out, and credit lines to borrow more are shut down.  Then there's no one left to 'pay the bills'.  Society is made up of exclusively consumers, not providers (be it money, food or basic needs).  

  • If you look, not even that carefully, you can now see the logic behind Trump's tariffs, especially on China.  The timing couldn't possibly be better, albeit maybe 5 years too late in starting.  If you notice China's reaction to these tariffs, they aren't things which injure the west; they are things which only further injure China.  This illustrates just how desperate China is.  Xi knows the situation is dire.  Even at 50+% Xi is not about to damage the relationship with China's biggest customer (by a country mile), America.  He knows if he does it only makes China's own situation even worse.  So, this is why you see China's response to the tariffs is things like making public statements about how they won't buy American steel.  China doesn't buy American steel in the first place, so stopping future imports does nothing.  Equally, China says they will stop importing America's grain.  Okay, they wind up starving their own people without it.  It just demonstrates how absolutely dependent the Chinese are on exports to America.  Without them, China dies on the vine.

  • But back to the first point; nothing happens fast in China.  Change takes hundreds of years in China.  China won't roll over and die tomorrow, and they won't raise the white flag tomorrow either.  China's whole philosophy is about endurance, not speed.  And this is how they will react now, communism, Xi, or not.  Leaders may change.  Styles of governance may change.  But drastic and immediate changes to China as a whole won't happen.



RE: The clock is ticking for China - F2d5thCav - 05-30-2025

All that I would add to FCD's comments is that, like all societies, any collapse in China will be at least mildly surprising.  Things always seem to creak along until the bottom suddenly falls out.  Why should Russia have collapsed in 1917 and not decades earlier ?  Why did France hold at Verdun only to collapse 24 years later in a situation with far fewer casualties ?

China is a communist holdout.  Their system has mutated in an attempt to survive, but the effort is a band-aid.  At some point, the band-aid will be ripped off the social wound.

MinusculeCheers


RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 06-05-2025

Is Xi finished and soon to be outed from the CCP 



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 06-11-2025

Not the first time Chinese EVs have a problem



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 06-12-2025

The main content of the program: 0:00 Intro 0:49 China's COVID Nightmare: Young Adults Drop Dead, Severe Cases Surge Across Ages 3:34 Belarus Leaks Peng Liyuan and Xi Mingze’s Whereabouts: Xi Jinping Furious? 7:31 Even Shanghai Can't Hold On? Rumored ‘State-Owned’ Enterprise Implements Disguised Layoffs 10:33 ‘I Was Wrong to Join the Party, Wrong to Serve in the Military!’ Jiangsu Man Shouts During Police Interrogation 15:17 Alien Fleet in Xi'an Skies? Rumors Claim CCP Deploys Massive Fighter Jet Response 18:57 Key Xi Loyalist in Security Apparatus Announced Fallen on the Eve of June 10



RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 06-16-2025




RE: The clock is ticking for China - 727Sky - 06-17-2025




RE: The clock is ticking for China - FCD - 06-17-2025

(06-16-2025, 05:16 AM)727Sky Wrote:

Contrary to many popular western beliefs, China and Russia have never been "buddies".  They share some similarities in terms of form of government and ruling behavior (but they are not a model of one another), AND their alliances have never really been put to the test.  Yes, Russia provided (and continues to provide) much needed military aid and cooperation across much of Asia, especially during the Vietnam conflict, but if push came to shove people should not consider Russia and/or China diehard allies.

Case in point, China and Russia have way more nukes pointed at each other than they ever do against the West (USA and Europe).  At issue is Russia's far east.  And both Russia and China know this.  China would just love access to Russia's far east, and Russia will go to the mat before they allow this to happen.  This should tell anyone interested just about everything they need to know.  No sensationalized news story will change a fact which has been in place for decades.

Russia and China both possess vast amounts of real estate, but Russia's, unlike China's real estate, is largely chocked full of natural resources, and China's is vast amounts of barren high desert.  The western half of China is largely uninhabitable due to lack of resources and lack of infrastructure as a result.  Russia's far east is also largely unpopulated, but the available resources are exponentially better and more available.  Just look at where western China's border ends; it's pretty much central Asia (Middle East) vs. where Russia's western border ends...Europe.  The differences in potential are staggering.  This is why China's 'Belt and Road' initiative seeks to gain access to eastern Europe without going through Russia.  Just look at the infrastructure build-out of the Belt and Road initiative to see the routes it takes.