(09-14-2025, 04:12 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: I have that poor sleep and foot cramps bit without fasting.

Ever since the COVID uproar, my flat foot has gotten stiffer and I have short bouts of restless leg syndrome some nights.  That is matched with tense feelings in the top of my foot where it meets the ankle and up through the calf a bit.  It is particularly bad on nights when I have poor digestion (I am gluten- and lactose- sensitive so it is easy to get my guts in an uproar).  Quite the sleep disruptor.

Tinnutus as well.  Sounds like being on a modern jetliner when it is cruising at high altitude.

Bally, what Kenzo said.  Watch your electrolytes.  You can get sodium and potassium supplements that may make the fasting less oppressive.

One type of fasting is consuming nothing but the juice from dark berries.  That cleans out the guts after a few days.

And yeah, I like red wine too much.

Good luck with your regimen.

(09-14-2025, 04:37 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote:

(09-14-2025, 04:12 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: I have that poor sleep and foot cramps bit without fasting.

Ever since the COVID uproar, my flat foot has gotten stiffer and I have short bouts of restless leg syndrome some nights.  That is matched with tense feelings in the top of my foot where it meets the ankle and up through the calf a bit.  It is particularly bad on nights when I have poor digestion (I am gluten- and lactose- sensitive so it is easy to get my guts in an uproar).  Quite the sleep disruptor.

Tinnutus as well.  Sounds like being on a modern jetliner when it is cruising at high altitude.

Bally, what Kenzo said.  Watch your electrolytes.  You can get sodium and potassium supplements that may make the fasting less oppressive.

One type of fasting is consuming nothing but the juice from dark berries.  That cleans out the guts after a few days.

And yeah, I like red wine too much.

Good luck with your regimen.

Cav ,sounds like iron deficiency ....those symptoms ,restless leg syndrome ,tinnitus with gastrointestinal (GI) disorder which often cause iron defiency . But could also be other deficiencie too like low potassium .

Problem with low iron , if you take blood test and it`s in " reference value " ....doctor may just say it`s okey/no deficiency , but you may have deficiency stil . I dont trust the reference value....and i tested it by taking iron when doctor claimed my values dont show deficiency . 

Common deficiencies:  magnesium, potassium , iron ,vitamin A ...

Low stomach acid also common issue

(09-15-2025, 03:29 AM)727Sky Wrote: 76 here and fading fast but.....A Magnesium tablet for a few days stops legs cramps for me; a golfer friend said it worked, and it does for me.

I do not have a beer gut; I have bone to bone at one of my vertebrates in my lower back and if my belly gets big it puts to much pressure on my back. If that happens no exercise or golf for me. 

I do not go out of my way to drink Alcohol and have probably not had a wine or beer in over two years.  Do not like the taste usually .. Michelob Ultra lite when I used to have a beer was my beer of choice but that is not sold around here.

As far as weight I found I eat breakfast and lunch around 14:00 and nothing else afterwards other than water or a milk and crackers if really hungry.

I smoked for over 65 years and having the heart attack or angina May a year ago (2024) I quit. The Doctors gave me a bag of different pills to take which made me sick. Because my blood pressure could get above 180 I messed around and found some B.P. medicine ( Diovan 160 ) that I could take 1/2 of the already small pill every couple of days or when my B.P. got over 140...125 or 135 seems to be the best for me; a full pill can knock me down to 108 or lower.  MANY FRIENDS SAY DOCTORS INSIST YOU HAVE TO TAKE B.P. MEDICINE EVERYDAY.. After watching many friends die under Doctors care I read/research and do my own thing. Never ever thinking I would live or even want to live this long it seems to work for me..  Just my 2 cents worth... 

I played golf today and shot a 77 not playing up to my standards but as long as I take money off my opponents, " Call it a Happy Ending !"

(09-15-2025, 09:54 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: 727Sky,

As far as beer there goes, what, no Trente-Trois ?

Oh yeah, that was SIXTY YEARS AGO.  Jesus, Cav ... 

(09-15-2025, 01:32 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Evening.  Just recording that as I type here I've reached 100 hrs without any food or alcohol.  I'm determined to go another 24 hrs.  More about that will follow.  

During last night I basically had the poorest sleep.  Apart from getting up throughout 7.5 hrs to pee I suffered leg cramping.  Couldn't get comfortable and had that bastard of a headache throughout.  After rising I waited a bit then had a cup of black coffee (unsweetened).  Thought this might master the headache.

Truey got up a bit after me and made me another coffee.  Thoughtfully I drank that too on top of water.  To keep myself busy I emptied the electrical appliance cupboard.  There were 2 older deep fryers, and some other items I hadn't used since I got my airfryer some time ago.  They were covered in dust adhering to the outside from thin layers of cooking oil.  The cords were the same, greasy.  The insides were still damp from oil and it had baked to the surfaces. There was a lot else which I won't go on about.  I just wanted to scrub stuff. (motivation?)

Hunger pains came and went and the headache ensued.  My left sinus and gums joined in.  A few years back I had a operation on the sinus to clear it out of polyps and it had also caused the teeth of the gums below to decay and abscess.  They were removed.  Left nasal passage started running and I could taste gunk running into my throat.  I kept at cleaning until just before midday when truey gets ready for work.  I took out the packets of assorted flavour jerkies I had made as well as a couple of slices of bacon which was nice and crispy after being through the same process.  Truey tasted them all.  Selected assorted flavours and also packed all of the bacon for her lunch.  I felt envious as I love jerky. She also had a dram of the moonshine with coke.  Off to work she went.

I sat down for a while.  Did a bit of laptop work and had...another coffee..head was very painful. Went outside for a walk to take my mind off hunger.  Dicked around in the garden and sheds.  It was 80 F.  The sun was too bright.  Relented and came inside to cool off.  Stripped down and commenced cleaning. I cracked at this moment with the pain in my head, gums and left nostril.  Hell.  I relented and took 3 nurofen tabs.  Rested at the laptop till I felt the pain subside then went back to scrubbing fatty deep fryers and the sandwich press.  Things I won't probably be using again.

Pain subsided and I felt some clicking in my left sinus and the pressure released.  Runny left nostril for a bit but the relief felt great.  No headache now.  I don't normally take nurofen but the tabs certainly worked.  Got jack of scrubbing, sat down, had another coffee.  Seems feeling weak and lethargic was disappearing.  Started cleaning again until late afternoon where feeding the animals didn't feel like a chore.  Had a shower.  This was different.  I could actually bend down and take my socks of without my gut causing a problem.  My man boobs had shrunk along with the waist line and I could see the little fella.  In the mirror was puffy face was starting to shed.  Near the hips some loose skin was starting to appear in a small roll.  While getting dressed, putting socks on was easy compared to before.  

Feeling better now for the first time in days.  Gum ache coming back.  Keen now to go to town and check my BP, insulin levels and my weight.  (scales here broke lol). Will hit the fart sack soon, no farting to be had.  So actually looking forward to this experiment tomorrow and see if I can make it 5 days and record the results here.

Kind regards,

Bally.

(09-15-2025, 06:43 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: At Kenzo.  Bought some iron supplement today and took a tablet.  Oddly enough, it is dark outside and my usual fatigue has not settled over me.  Maybe it helped. 

At Bally.  Wow, you're disciplined and determined.  Be sure not to injure yourself with too much fasting.

(09-16-2025, 02:10 PM)727Sky Wrote: A Houston high school girl took a bottle of Ibuprofen either on a lark or to get attention ?? She was dead within the week with liver failure.

(09-17-2025, 12:23 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Start of my 6th day was fine.  Woke up after a deep sleep.  Only 1 toilet trip.  Big fat shed.  No headache.  Had to drive to town. Plenty of water. Wore me out. Light headed. 

Afternoon up and down.  Muscles aching around the upper chest and armpits.  Was good for a while then started crashing.

After this day which started good and I was feeling confident I'm going to bed to face the 7th day whereupon I'm chucking the fasting in and starting a carnivore diet so officially it will be 6.7  days.

I'll be hitting the mattress soon and will be up at 4am to see truey off to work.

I think I'll make a breakfast of eggs, cooked sliced kabana and perhaps some cheese.  My body is now weak and feeling the pain.  Hope I shed some fat tonight.

We'll see.

Kind regards,

Bally.

(09-17-2025, 04:20 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote:

(09-17-2025, 12:23 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Start of my 6th day was fine.  Woke up after a deep sleep.  Only 1 toilet trip.  Big fat shed.  No headache.  Had to drive to town. Plenty of water. Wore me out. Light headed. 

Afternoon up and down.  Muscles aching around the upper chest and armpits.  Was good for a while then started crashing.

After this day which started good and I was feeling confident I'm going to bed to face the 7th day whereupon I'm chucking the fasting in and starting a carnivore diet so officially it will be 6.7  days.

I'll be hitting the mattress soon and will be up at 4am to see truey off to work.

I think I'll make a breakfast of eggs, cooked sliced kabana and perhaps some cheese.  My body is now weak and feeling the pain.  Hope I shed some fat tonight.

We'll see.

Kind regards,

Bally.

6.7  days is hella good  


Body metabolism tend to slow down in any longer fasting , meaning body adjust to energy saving mode ,like the ancestors did when they were days without food....it`s in our DNA to do that, to survive . The side effect of that is loosing weigh can also then go harder with metabolism acting slower .

I am now in 5 day in my Intermittent fasting , today was litle bit longer fasting , 21.5 hours because i was out from home.

Btw , with Intermittent fasting the body metabolism wont slow down if just eat enough good nutrious food in the eating window and do litle exercise also....

(09-17-2025, 06:33 PM)Bally002 Wrote:

(09-17-2025, 04:20 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote:

(09-17-2025, 12:23 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Start of my 6th day was fine.  Woke up after a deep sleep.  Only 1 toilet trip.  Big fat shed.  No headache.  Had to drive to town. Plenty of water. Wore me out. Light headed. 

Afternoon up and down.  Muscles aching around the upper chest and armpits.  Was good for a while then started crashing.

After this day which started good and I was feeling confident I'm going to bed to face the 7th day whereupon I'm chucking the fasting in and starting a carnivore diet so officially it will be 6.7  days.

I'll be hitting the mattress soon and will be up at 4am to see truey off to work.

I think I'll make a breakfast of eggs, cooked sliced kabana and perhaps some cheese.  My body is now weak and feeling the pain.  Hope I shed some fat tonight.

We'll see.

Kind regards,

Bally.

6.7  days is hella good  


Body metabolism tend to slow down in any longer fasting , meaning body adjust to energy saving mode ,like the ancestors did when they were days without food....it`s in our DNA to do that, to survive . The side effect of that is loosing weigh can also then go harder with metabolism acting slower .

I am now in 5 day in my Intermittent fasting , today was litle bit longer fasting , 21.5 hours because i was out from home.

Btw , with Intermittent fasting the body metabolism wont slow down if just eat enough good nutrious food in the eating window and do litle exercise also....

Yeah, thanks again.  I'll be doing that.  Are you feeling better?  Had the best nights sleep.  Woke up, no headache.  Strange.  But I'm hungry.  Later when the sun rises I'll see what I can put together.

Kind regards,

Bally.