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Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - gortex - 11-01-2025
The incident happened a couple of hours ago police say multiple people have been stabbed and 2 people arrested , no indication of why or who did this but thoughts to those affected.
Quote:A witness who was on the train tells Sky News he saw someone moving through his carriage saying: "They've got a knife, I've been stabbed."
"They were making their way through the carriage to get away from the suspects. They were extremely bloodied," says the man, giving his name as Gavin.
He says by the time the train stopped, "they were basically on the floor".
"That person ended up collapsing on the floor. They were taken to an ambulance pretty much straight away," he said.
Gavin said passengers were ushered out into the station, adding: "There were multiple people who had been stabbed".
https://news.sky.com/story/train-stabbing-latest-two-arrested-after-multiple-people-stabbed-13462248
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - Michigan Swamp Buck - 11-01-2025
My guess is that the perps are Islamic immigrant.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - 727Sky - 11-02-2025
Gotta wonder what good British citizen (s) did this horrible deed and what set them off to commit this stabbing crime ?
Update: 10 are in hospital and one in critical condition ... also the Terrorist Crime Police are now involved
Thank goodness guns are hard to get in the U.K. or it could have been worse.... or.... it could have been stopped by an armed citizen before the carnage really got underway.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - F2d5thCav - 11-02-2025
(Yesterday, 12:22 AM)727Sky Wrote: Gotta wonder what good British citizen (s) did this horrible deed and what set them off to commit this stabbing crime ?
Update: 10 are in hospital and one in critical condition ... also the Terrorist Crime Police are now involved
Thank goodness guns are hard to get in the U.K. or it could have been worse.... or.... it could have been stopped by an armed citizen before the carnage really got underway.
Exactly. Someone didn't get their tea and crumpets, "setting them off".
Let me echo the British authorities:
"very saddening"
"terrible tragedy"
etc. etc.
Anyone really wonder why Prof. Betz is predicting civil war for the UK ?
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - gortex - 11-02-2025
(Yesterday, 12:22 AM)727Sky Wrote: Thank goodness guns are hard to get in the U.K. or it could have been worse.... or.... it could have been stopped by an armed citizen before the carnage really got underway.
The lack of gun availability isn't the problem here mate it's the pandering by successive governments to certain groups who wish us harm and the unhindered invasion of this Country by those groups that's the problem , 14 years of weak Conservative government followed by a Labour government who are in bed with these people have led us to the brink of what could be an impending Civil War , with Remembrance Sunday due next week any further attacks could be the starting pistol for what is to come.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - BIAD - 11-02-2025
I'm also wondering if the date: 1-11-25 is relevant too. The incident did occur late in the day, but still...
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - gortex - 11-02-2025
Restore Britain MP Rupert Lowe has written a strongly worded letter to the PM calling for government
action and the restoration of the Death penalty for this kind of crime.
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Latest update has just been given by British Transport police.
Quote:The British Transport Police have just begun their news conference at Huntingdon Station.
Superintendent John Loveless says: "Within eight minutes of a 999 call being made two men were in police custody.
"These were a 32-year-old male, a black British national, and a 35-year-old male, a British national of Caribbean descent."
He adds they were both born in the UK and both were arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.
Of the nine people thought to have life-threatening injuries, four have been discharged, and two remain in a life-threatening condition.
Superintendent Loveless adds: "At this stage, there is nothing to suggest that this is a terrorist incident. This is a British Transport Police investigation and we continue to work to establish at pace the full circumstances and the motivations that have led to this incident."
https://news.sky.com/story/train-stabbing-latest-two-arrested-after-multiple-people-stabbed-13462248
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - Michigan Swamp Buck - 11-02-2025
Not likely these two are Islamic, but after this stabbing spree, even if they weren't trying to cause terror for a political purpose, they are still terrorists in my book.
If they are allowed to live, they must suffer. If they choose to live outside the law, they should have no benefit of the law and not be protected by officials from harm by anyone. This is how all these scofflaw immigrants need to be treated. You don't obey our laws? Then you get no protection or benefit from our laws. Other criminals can do what they want to these domestic terrorists called migrants if the laws don't apply to them.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - BIAD - 11-02-2025
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"...In a news conference, Superintendent John Loveless confirmed a 32-year-old black British male and a
35-year-old male of Caribbean descent have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. Both were
born in this country, he confirmed..."
"...Of the nine people rushed to hopsital in critical condition yesterday, four have been discharged and two
remain in critical condition, he also confirmed. Supt Loveless also said there was no evidence at this stage
in their investigation that the attack was a "terrorist incident"..."
Yorkshire Live:
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - gortex - 11-02-2025
I find it interesting they gave so much detail on the suspects emphasising their "Nationality" , I doubt they would have been so forthcoming if they hadn't been "British Nationals", I think such crimes should lead to their "Nationality" being revoked but would prefer Rupert Lowe's suggestion of the reinstatement of the Death penalty for such crimes , tough love ... which sadly will never happen.
Sadiq Khan's lawless London is spilling out and infecting the Home Counties , I think it's past time we built a security fence around that particular prison and sacked its failing governor.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - Michigan Swamp Buck - 11-02-2025
(Yesterday, 11:54 AM)BIAD Wrote:
"...In a news conference, Superintendent John Loveless confirmed a 32-year-old black British male and a
35-year-old male of Caribbean descent have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. Both were
born in this country, he confirmed..."
"...Of the nine people rushed to hopsital in critical condition yesterday, four have been discharged and two
remain in critical condition, he also confirmed. Supt Loveless also said there was no evidence at this stage
in their investigation that the attack was a "terrorist incident"..."
Yorkshire Live:
Well then, not migrants and not homegrown terrorists either? Blacks it is then, Superintendent Loveless has set that straight. God bless the current ruling royal family member.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - MalevolentTwitch - 11-02-2025
I really wish we would stop making this about the weapons being used vs the availability / banning of potential weapons. There's just no such thing as gun violence, or car violence, or knife violence, etc. There is only violence. It's just... Violence. Categorizing it as anything other than plan and simple violence is a tool statisticians and politicians use to promote certain agendas while decrying others.
When we get right down to it, this is an issue of violence that is rooted a lack of respect for fellow members of our communities, a disregard for any form of accountability for our own actions, a backlash against the acceptable norms of behavior, and... well... a lack of understanding of mental health.
To use the "mass shooter" issue that we have in the U.S. as an example here for just a moment... The number of mass shooters that kill themselves at the end of their rampage is indicative of a mindset that screams, "I'm determined to share my pain with the world, but I don't want to deal with the consequences." These individuals aren't fighting to the last. It's not about glory, or righteousness, or anything like that at all.
It's narcissism expressed through violent means. And yes, that does include the so called, extremists, whatever their religion may be. Fanaticism holds the hand of narcissism. The idea that I am special, it falls on ME to show the world that I am right, I AM THE RIGHT HAND OF MY GOD... When it is written in just about every holy test from every major religion that we humans can't fathom the will of the Almighty, or gods (plural) if that's your thing. In the Quran itself, much the same as the Torah and the Bible, it speaks to concepts such as;
Tawhid: The Oneness of the Almighty. The Almighty is singular, has no equal, and cannot be truly understood because of this.
Al-Ghayb: The Unseen... The existence of the Almighty is beyond our understanding for we are flawed, yet the Almighty is flawless...
Hell, let us actually quote the Quran for a moment as f*cking proof....
Surah Ash-Shura (42:11): "There is nothing whatever like unto Him, and He is the One who hears and sees all things."
Surah Al-An'am (6:103): "No vision can grasp Him, but His Grasp is over all vision."
Now, let it be known that I am not defending Islam at all. I have a very unique distaste for the fanatics of that faith for personal reasons. But with that in mind, we must actually look at the core root of the problem...
Human beings are inherently violent. Our history is violence. Our glory is violence. Our self identity is the power we project overs other through violent means... Take away the ability to be violent in a respectful and honorable manner? And this shit is the result.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - BIAD - 11-02-2025
(Yesterday, 01:44 PM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: I really wish we would stop making this about the weapons being used vs the availability / banning of potential weapons. There's just no such thing as gun violence, or car violence, or knife violence, etc. There is only violence...
I agree with you, but the media can pull a lot more content for their occupation if the acts of violence
are individualised. Not only that, certain penalties from particular law-breaking back-up their need to
refrain from stepping outside of their usual narrative-forming habit.
Take for example the current requirement of stating or not stating the ethnic or religious identity of a suspect.
Does it categorically give the reason why the offence took place or would it leave a viewer/reader to form an
ambiguous opinion? Would such assumptions lead onto speculation and with it, the possibility of stirring
emotions that could lead to further problems?
This isn't reporting in the true sense, anymore, it's a type of low-grade Journalism that whisks the pot
for further content that might be needed as filler to maintain a false excitement around an incident and
hopefully preserve ratings.
A 'Mass Stabbing' will catch the customers' eye more than reporting a number of people were injured
during a train ride and I'm ashamed to say that it's all about grabbing the attention of those customers.
It began long before Jack The Ripper hit the headlines and will continue until maturity returns (if it was
ever there) to the trade of responsible reporting.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - MalevolentTwitch - 11-02-2025
(Yesterday, 02:06 PM)BIAD Wrote:(Yesterday, 01:44 PM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: I really wish we would stop making this about the weapons being used vs the availability / banning of potential weapons. There's just no such thing as gun violence, or car violence, or knife violence, etc. There is only violence...
I agree with you, but the media can pull a lot more content for their occupation if the acts of violence
are individualised. Not only that, certain penalties from particular law-breaking back-up their need to
refrain from stepping outside of their usual narrative-forming habit.
Take for example the current requirement of stating or not stating the ethnic or religious identity of a suspect.
Does it categorically give the reason why the offence took place or would it leave a viewer/reader to form an
ambiguous opinion? Would such assumptions lead onto speculation and with it, the possibility of stirring
emotions that could lead to further problems?
This isn't reporting in the true sense, anymore, it's a type of low-grade Journalism that whisks the pot
for further content that might be needed as filler to maintain a false excitement around an incident and
hopefully preserve ratings.
A 'Mass Stabbing' will catch the customers' eye more than reporting a number of people were injured
during a train ride and I'm ashamed to say that it's all about grabbing the attention of those customers.
It began long before Jack The Ripper hit the headlines and will continue until maturity returns (if it was
ever there) to the trade of responsible reporting.
There is a difference though... Calling something a "Mass Stabbing" or a "Mass Shooting" or a "Bombing" when that is what it is, is actually and factually correct. What I am attempting to draw attention to is the flawed idea that the weapon used is somehow more important than the hand that wields it. Yes, I do agree with you about how the days of Walter Cronkite's soothing monotone and just reporting the facts was the exception and not the rule... But there's something darker at work here, lurking in the depths of our inherent internal sociopathies...
Some perverse love child of entitlement and delusion...
I wonder if by becoming more "Civilized" and "Peaceful" and becoming nations of laws and order that have no place for "acceptable" violence within those constraints, we've actually made ourselves more vulnerable to the truly despicable.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - Ninurta - 11-02-2025
(Yesterday, 07:08 PM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote:(Yesterday, 02:06 PM)BIAD Wrote:(Yesterday, 01:44 PM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: I really wish we would stop making this about the weapons being used vs the availability / banning of potential weapons. There's just no such thing as gun violence, or car violence, or knife violence, etc. There is only violence...
I agree with you, but the media can pull a lot more content for their occupation if the acts of violence
are individualised. Not only that, certain penalties from particular law-breaking back-up their need to
refrain from stepping outside of their usual narrative-forming habit.
Take for example the current requirement of stating or not stating the ethnic or religious identity of a suspect.
Does it categorically give the reason why the offence took place or would it leave a viewer/reader to form an
ambiguous opinion? Would such assumptions lead onto speculation and with it, the possibility of stirring
emotions that could lead to further problems?
This isn't reporting in the true sense, anymore, it's a type of low-grade Journalism that whisks the pot
for further content that might be needed as filler to maintain a false excitement around an incident and
hopefully preserve ratings.
A 'Mass Stabbing' will catch the customers' eye more than reporting a number of people were injured
during a train ride and I'm ashamed to say that it's all about grabbing the attention of those customers.
It began long before Jack The Ripper hit the headlines and will continue until maturity returns (if it was
ever there) to the trade of responsible reporting.
There is a difference though... Calling something a "Mass Stabbing" or a "Mass Shooting" or a "Bombing" when that is what it is, is actually and factually correct. What I am attempting to draw attention to is the flawed idea that the weapon used is somehow more important than the hand that wields it. Yes, I do agree with you about how the days of Walter Cronkite's soothing monotone and just reporting the facts was the exception and not the rule... But there's something darker at work here, lurking in the depths of our inherent internal sociopathies...
Some perverse love child of entitlement and delusion...
I wonder if by becoming more "Civilized" and "Peaceful" and becoming nations of laws and order that have no place for "acceptable" violence within those constraints, we've actually made ourselves more vulnerable to the truly despicable.
A man after my own heart. I've been saying the same thing for decades now - the implements are not important, the violence itself is, and segregating the violence into supposed types is just a smoke screen to allow the violence to continue. The simple fact is, a dangerous person WILL find a way to be dangerous, regardless of whether any particular implement of violence is banned or not.
As I understand it, firearms are available in the UK, but are so tightly controlled that they are of no practical use to the law abiding citizenry. Criminals, on the other hand, labor under no such disability. They are "criminals" BECAUSE they don't obey laws. That's kinda how "criminal" is defined. Despite British gun controls, I believe there was a shooting in London just last weekend.
The average British criminal intent on violence has simply moved on to another implement of violence - knives. So, now the UK is concentrating on "knife violence" by attempting the control of knives... in some cases right down to steak knives generally used at dinner tables. That will work about as well as the "gun violence" initiatives have - once the state gains absolute control over knives, the violent will simply move on to other implements of destruction. Those who don't just make their own shanks to continue their "knife violence", that is.
So, after the British public has to store their steak knives down at the secure "knife club" facility, and maybe take their dinners there because that's where the knives are, then the Next Big Thing may be "screwdriver violence" or "crowbar violence" or "claw hammer violence" or some other form of violence. The one thing that is sure is that the violence itself will not stop, because it's not being addressed as British politicians concentrate on implements rather than behaviours.
The same is true of the United States, Australia, and Canada - all English speaking countries, each at a different point along the precisely same "control seizure via weapons bans" continuum.
This problem is similar to the structure of a tree. The branches represent means of prosecuting violence, the roots represent the causes of violence, and the trunk connecting the two is the violence itself. Now there is a nearly infinite variety of means and combinations of means to do violence, so if one branch of that tree is cut off, another merely grows larger. Likewise with the roots - if one cause of violence is cut off, another will just keep growing. The most vulnerable point of attack is the violence itself, the trunk. When you cut a tree down and kill it, that is the point you attack, rather than wasting time trimming branches or roots. As a matter of fact, if you consult with any competent groundskeeper, you'll find that trimming the extremities often improves the overall health of the plant - attacking the extremities of violence will only serve to promote it's growth.
Why do they choose to attack the branches rather than the roots or trunk then? Because it's not about making a more secure environment for YOU, it's about securing THEMSELVES from you. They don't give a rat's ass about the safety and security of the citizenry - they only want to insulate themselves from reprisals that may be brought on by actions they take against the citizens. If THEY have all the weapons and YOU are disarmed, then you are at a disadvantage as to means to revoke their charters.
Meanwhile, YOUR safety and security remain unaffected, because they ar willfully failing to attack the weakest point of the violence - they are only concentrating on protecting themselves, and their iron grip on power over you. The violence continues, because they are failing to properly address it.
Yet another reason that they don't attack the violence itself is their need for control over you. One of their goals is to convince you that they are somehow "protecting" you, and to that end they NEED the violence. If there is no violence, then there is no need to protect you from it, and so they lose one of their levers of power over you if they eliminate it. By keeping it, they can song-and-dance their way to convincing you that they are "doing something about it to protect you" by convincing you that trimming the branches - the implements and expressions of violence - is in some way "doing something to keep you safe". They are, instead, blowing smoke up your ass, gaslighting you.
How does one address the problem, then? He cuts the trunk... he attacks the violence itself. Executions are in order. violence has steadily been on the rise as executions fall. Execution frequently acts as a deterrent, and even when it doesn't, one thing is sure - the executed criminal is out of the equation, and will never be violent again. At least that one has been entirely removed from the equation. Also, when the trunk is cut, the branches wither. As violence becomes less prevalent, the need for self defense also decreases.
Also, once a trunk is cut, the stump and roots can often live on for decades more, frequently re-sprouting new trunks and branches. So, once the trunk is cut, it's time to address the root system - the causes that violence happens to begin with. That's much easier to do when one is not constantly ducking bullets and swinging, slicing steel.
So, attacking the trunk is what would be done if they really gave a crap about the safety and security of the citizenry,
But that's not what they do.
Until they do, violent people are going to find new ways to be violent. New branches of the tree WILL sprout every time an older one is trimmed or cut off.
It's just the circle of life.
.
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - BIAD - 11-03-2025
(Yesterday, 07:08 PM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: There is a difference though... Calling something a "Mass Stabbing" or a "Mass Shooting" or a "Bombing"
when that is what it is, is actually and factually correct. What I am attempting to draw attention to is the
flawed idea that the weapon used is somehow more important than the hand that wields it...
Of course and I should've enlarged on the realities of how information that is relayed to the public must
adhere to the rational inference that it is the human that commits the crime, not the weapon. The down
-side is that it may inadvertently urge certain politically-influenced media-outlets to stereotype a person
committing such offences, something that could also effect ratings.
It's now being reported that the 32 year-old individual who's suspected of alighting the fourth carriage
of a commuter train on a Saturday night with a knife and attacked a number of people, cried out "The
Devil Is Not Going To Win!"
Obviously with all the lawlessness being reported in the UK, he is!
Addendum:
The point I was making was due to the manner of responding to information delivered by an accepted
courier of we've been daily informed is an 'accurate' source. Someone attacks people on a train with
a weapon and with hurried visuals and serious tone, the few members of the public that still listen to
these established broadcasters might wonder where their world is heading.
Suggestions and speculation are abound on these institutionalised outlets to keep the incident relevant
until another distraction can be promoted, but remember, there's always the caveat inserted that similar
conjecture on social-media is a bad thing. 'We can say things, but you can't... 'cos of free-speech and
all that'.
As the facts are slowly supplied by the emergency services, the narrative of the mainstream media continues
down the road of avoiding the topic of self-responsibility and the dwindling concept of high social standards.
When it comes to the MSM, the reality of what actually occurred will never be confronted
RE: Multiple people stabbed on a train in Cambridgeshire, England - BIAD - 11-03-2025
Apparently, the chap they arrested at the Peterborough railway station has been charged with
another similar attack earlier on that day.
Quote:'A 32-year-old man has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder after a massMore In Sky News Article:
stabbing on a high-speed train. Anthony Williams, 32, from Peterborough, was arrested
on Saturday evening following an attack on the Doncaster to London King's Cross LNER
service.
He has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm
and one count of possession of a bladed article following a knife attack on a train in
Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police (BTP) said.
BTP said he has also been charged with another count of attempted murder and possession
of a bladed article in connection with an incident on a London train in the early hours of 1
November.
Police said a victim suffered facial injuries after being attacked at 12.46am with a knife on
a train at Pontoon Dock station on the Docklands Light Railway (DLR) in east London.
In a statement to Sky News, BTP said the suspect had left the location before police arrived
and officers subsequently identified Williams as a suspect...'