(10-29-2025, 05:29 AM)babushka Wrote: Sounds to me like you understand just fine. Nothing these authors say is unique to them, it's the same stuff a million other people has written about or said since the dawn of time.
I did actually find the method written down, the issue is if I say do this and that and it looks so and so and what not then immediately others copy it and make up stories and the whole thing gets diluted into pseudo whatever. Sometimes I wonder if it's done on purpose to discredit people.
Ectoplasm is just a name made to describe a phenomena, so is mist or light beings or shadow entities. We don't know what the "stuff" is so we just give it the name we have as a description (or make one up). It's an attempt at rationalizing the irrational. We don't refer to each other as made of flesh, we refer to persons and leave the rest up to the proverbial gods and assume the learned ones knows a thing or two more, the spirit is not plasma it's a spirit. We all know what flesh is, what it tastes like what it looks like how it works..no we don't know how it works, we look and we just find more questions, a bit of the puzzle here and there but never the whole. We fail at that and then try and apply the same failed process to the ethereal.
They should probably start thinking in terms of interacting energy clumps rather than in terms of concrete matter, because matter at it's most basic level is not really solid like they seem to be thinking.
An example: science has been arguing for decades on what "consciousness" is. Many brain scientists, probably the vast majority, are thinking in terms of concrete matter, which leads them to the conclusion that "consciousness" is generated in the brain, by action of neurons. They can't explain HOW that works, but just claim it does.
I don't think "consciousness" - what make you uniquely you - is generated in the brain at all. I think it exists outside the body, in the aether if you will, and the brain is just a translation organ to facilitate communication between the consciousness and the body, and by extension the rest of the physical world. The brain and body allow us to interact with "reality"as we know it, the physical world, but it does not actually contain us per se.
If that's the case, then certainly there are other "consciousnesses" out there, without benefit of brain or body, just floating around, existing, and only rarely stumbling upon some alternate mechanism to interact with the physical world. Some of those probably exist in this universe, or dimension, or what have you, but others... others may be crossing different universe or dimension boundaries through some mechanism that we, being bound to this one by our brains and bodies, cannot fully comprehend.
Notice I said "bound" by our brains and bodies, not "limited to" by them. Some people have a spark of an ability to detect those others, whether in this universe or crossing universal boundaries. That ability is not "paranormal", it's more "hypernormal" - extending beyond the normal most of us can detect into other "normals". It's not "supernatural" as in above nature, it's "hypernatural", extending into all areas of nature that some others either can't, or won't detect.
Discussions of ectoplasm seem to be mainly confined to the Victorian Era, among occultists and spiritualists. I've never seen a photo of it from that period that I am willing to trust as genuine, but that don't mean that some "fakers" weren't trying to represent, in a limited way, some real phenomena that other folks were actually observing with their own (made of energies, detecting other energies) sensory apparatuses.
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake