(11-05-2025, 04:46 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote: The thread is i guess more about secret societys . I fundamentally oppose any unelected group or secret society that trys to steer / decide / force the outcome of everything in World / country level . It`s basically some kind of hidden totalitarian power used to control other people .....in the shadows while they drink brandy and smoke cigars in their meetings. F em all .
My take on the Masons is that many in the lower levels are "multidimensional" ... they are junior Masons but may also be devout Christians. The low level people do some good works. Where IMO it gets shady is at the high levels of their (and other) organizations.
I get why people join organizations like the Masons ... much of it is networking ... good connections that help with business, loans, people who will help you in rough situations, etc. It is sort of a way of belonging to a tribe when one has no tribe in terms of family, clans, etc.
Very high level is something else. Lots of backroom deals and "secret history" to which ordinary people are not privy.
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