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RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - p358 - 03-17-2026
(03-17-2026, 09:28 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: It would be interesting someday to read a factual and unbiased history of ATS as a site ... the start, the high time, and the decline ... and what drove the content and behavior of the site over the years.
The decline started at the same time as the internet went sour.
Bots, sock puppets, and TDS sufferers abounded.
ATS was attacked relentlessly until demise.
DI was started by those that destroyed ATS, with a few exceptions I expect.
The truth must not get out there!
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RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - LightAngel - 03-17-2026
If we want to be a strong force against "evil" then we have to stick together people.
I like this site, and I also like DI.
I wish we could just get along.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Ninurta - 03-17-2026
(03-17-2026, 02:10 PM)LightAngel Wrote: If we want to be a strong force against "evil" then we have to stick together people.
I like this site, and I also like DI.
I wish we could just get along.
I recently had occasion for some back-channel communications with some other folks wherein I promoted that very idea, which is also the way I see it.
I'm not big on board wars. They're exhausting, with rarely ever a "winner". Instead, it's my belief that forums such as this, DI, and all the rest ought to get along and help one another, making the whole stronger and less susceptible to external attacks. For example, as happened here, one could provide safe refuge when another is under the gun. That would tend towards the membership being less scattered, and more secure, knowing there is always an alternate place to light and co-ordinate..
Also as has happened here, one can be a rally point for information when another is under attack or experiencing technical problems - when our bot attacks started giving us trouble, DI was available as a place where we could let folks know what was going on, and how it was being addressed for repairs. That has an effect of reducing anxiety among the membership and making them feel more secure - they know what is happening, and that steps are being taken to remediate it, so they're not just left swinging in the breeze all alone.
My point is, we're all stronger when we are in the same harness, pulling in the same direction. We don't have to see eye to eye on everything, but neither do we have to fight over members. It's entirely possible to be a member of multiple forums and still contribute. Each board has it's own individual "flavor", and some folks will naturally gravitate more towards this one or that one, but that doesn't mean everything has to devolve into a fight between boards.
It just means people are more comfortable with one format or another, with what one board may concentrate on that another doesn't. I personally don't see that as a reason to start throwing punches or "ban" members because they may also be a member elsewhere. I don't see it as a reason to suppress mention of one board on another. ATS was pretty bad about that. If folks are more comfortable elsewhere, let them go there with blessings. If it's done right, whatever they may do "over there" is eventually going to find it's way back to you as well, because good information tends to spread.
Petty jealousies are unbecoming of the "conspiracy theory" community, in my opinion As with other areas of life, they are just damaging and unproductive, not only to the "opponent", but also to the Self. I think we should recognize our differences, sure, but also our similarities, and celebrate both - it can only make us ALL stronger in the end.
Sort of the way alliances do in the geopolitical world.
Various Oriental nations have a phrase for the concept - "Gung-ho", "Cong-wa", etc. They all mean the same thing - "work together" or "pull together".
More outlets for information dissemination can't be a bad thing, so why penalize one another or the membership for doing so?
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RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - DontTreadOnMe - 03-17-2026
(03-15-2026, 10:11 PM)727Sky Wrote: Looks like D.I. has been saved
Define "saved"?
At this point, no one really knows what's going on.
Reminds me more of the last days of ATS more than anything else.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Ninurta - 03-17-2026
(03-17-2026, 07:35 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote:(03-15-2026, 10:11 PM)727Sky Wrote: Looks like D.I. has been saved
Define "saved"?
At this point, no one really knows what's going on.
Reminds me more of the last days of ATS more than anything else.
Makes sense to me. Turmoil and confusion culminating in a sale to outside interests... it does appear to be following the same template.
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RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - DontTreadOnMe - 03-17-2026
(03-17-2026, 09:19 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(03-17-2026, 07:35 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote:(03-15-2026, 10:11 PM)727Sky Wrote: Looks like D.I. has been saved
Define "saved"?
At this point, no one really knows what's going on.
Reminds me more of the last days of ATS more than anything else.
Makes sense to me. Turmoil and confusion culminating in a sale to outside interests... it does appear to be following the same template.
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The ATS Community has had it's share of drama the last 5 years. Especially with outside owners, absentee owners, locked out mods.
Skittish doesn't even begin to cover it
No one wants to go through months in limbo. And if the new owner has "other plans". well......
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Freija - 03-18-2026
Oopsie! Guess I said the wrong thing at the wrong time to the wrong person?
I'm fine with this. I'll just add it to the 5 times I was banned from ATS to make an even half dozen.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Ninurta - 03-18-2026
(03-18-2026, 03:01 AM)Freija Wrote: Oopsie! Guess I said the wrong thing at the wrong time to the wrong person?
I'm fine with this. I'll just add it to the 5 times I was banned from ATS to make an even half dozen.
Seriously?
What on Earth did you say, or to whom, to get banned?
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RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Freija - 03-18-2026
I'd rather not air dirty laundry in public but cay before yesterday TSK replied to a friendly and kind PM I sent about a month ago.
Yesterday I replied briefly to his less than friendly and kind response in a tone matching not so polite and congenial way. Today I am banned.
I'm honestly surprised it took a day. Maybe one day in the future when he is out of the picture, I might try for reinstatement but probably not? I really don't care.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Michigan Swamp Buck - 03-18-2026
I can't "contact an administrator". You have to sign in to do that. Once suspended, you can't sign in or even lurk without signing in. You'd have to use a VPN or use another browser to even lurk without signing in.
All I did was make my contact link a disposable chat room for private chatting, then mention it here and on Cyber Age as a workaround for their eavesdropping. One of their stooges reported me to their boss, and I got the axe.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - sahgwa - 03-18-2026
DI has a great format, but the owners/ TSK are douches and the censorship was out of hand.
I look forward to participating more here if time allows.
I am glad the format got more readable, the colours were really hard at first.
Also the size.
Keep on rockin
oh-
This whole thing about it NOT going away and hiim using donations for WHAT?! (Myke prepaid the whole domain for a decade?!) just points to money grubbing shitbagginess.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - xuenchen - 03-18-2026
(03-18-2026, 03:01 AM)Freija Wrote: Oopsie! Guess I said the wrong thing at the wrong time to the wrong person?
I'm fine with this. I'll just add it to the 5 times I was banned from ATS to make an even half dozen.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - DontTreadOnMe - 03-18-2026
(03-18-2026, 03:24 AM)Freija Wrote: I'd rather not air dirty laundry in public but cay before yesterday TSK replied to a friendly and kind PM I sent about a month ago.Good idea to not.
You should know the DI/ATS mods I know, including me, are totally in the dark about this.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - F2d5thCav - 03-18-2026
@"xuenchen"#56
Quote:Ici Londres. Les Arabes parlent aux Arabes ...
82 years. Such a difference. Looks like Hitler's Arab Legions won the war after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTGBLgMT1E
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - Chiefsmom - 03-18-2026
(03-18-2026, 03:24 AM)Freija Wrote: I'd rather not air dirty laundry in public but cay before yesterday TSK replied to a friendly and kind PM I sent about a month ago.
Yesterday I replied briefly to his less than friendly and kind response in a tone matching not so polite and congenial way. Today I am banned.
I'm honestly surprised it took a day. Maybe one day in the future when he is out of the picture, I might try for reinstatement but probably not? I really don't care.
Welcome to the club! LOL
Maybe we will get lucky when he is finally gone and can rejoin? Sure as heck don't want to while he is still around. He puts on a good front. Until his true face comes through.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - DontTreadOnMe - 03-18-2026
(03-18-2026, 05:43 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"xuenchen"#56
Quote:Ici Londres. Les Arabes parlent aux Arabes ...
82 years. Such a difference. Looks like Hitler's Arab Legions won the war after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTGBLgMT1E
It's not over until it's over. Have faith.
RE: Deny Ignorance is shutting down - sahgwa - 03-18-2026
(03-18-2026, 08:11 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote:(03-18-2026, 05:43 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"xuenchen"#56
Quote:Ici Londres. Les Arabes parlent aux Arabes ...
82 years. Such a difference. Looks like Hitler's Arab Legions won the war after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTGBLgMT1E
It's not over until it's over. Have faith.
Gots to read
Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs
Reich of the Black Sun and
SS Brotherhood of the Bell (for starters) by Joseph P Farrell
to see. Nazis never lost.
They just scurried away.
and then made the EU
Episode 1 - listen live! - MykeNukem - 03-19-2026
Heya Guys & Gals,
Just wanted to announce that Episode 1 (almost 2!) of Ksihkehe's CypherAge podcast will be airing this Saturday at 8pm EST.
Ksihkehe and I will be covering all the crap that went down with DI, including the BTC donations and grifting, hacking, censorship, banning for questions, staff support, etc. We believe the community deserves the full story.
We'll also be covering other topics but will be focused on the info in these threads: The ATS Archive and ATATW. As they seem the most pertinent to recent events.
Anyone with questions or if you just want to argue,
, is welcome to join us live or after the show in the thread.I figure, screw it, let's get it ALL out there, this community has been in the dark long enough! Put this to rest, once and for all.
If there are any changes, I'll post here.
Also, if you're not the type to participate in podcasts, feel free to ask whatever questions you have here and I'll be sure to include them! Keep it civil, please!
Thanks,
Myke
RE: Episode 1 - listen live! - sahgwa - 03-19-2026
(03-19-2026, 02:30 PM)MykeNukem Wrote: Heya Guys & Gals,That's great; thanks for doing what you do .
Just wanted to announce that Episode 1 (almost 2!) of Ksihkehe's CypherAge podcast will be airing this Saturday at 8pm EST.
Ksihkehe and I will be covering all the crap that went down with DI, including the BTC donations and grifting, hacking, censorship, banning for questions, staff support, etc. We believe the community deserves the full story.
We'll also be covering other topics but will be focused on the info in these threads: The ATS Archive and ATATW. As they seem the most pertinent to recent events.
Anyone with questions or if you just want to argue,
I figure, screw it, let's get it ALL out there, this community has been in the dark long enough! Put this to rest, once and for all.
If there are any changes, I'll post here.
Also, if you're not the type to participate in podcasts, feel free to ask whatever questions you have here and I'll be sure to include them! Keep it civil, please!
Thanks,
Myke
I wish we hadn't splintered up into like 3 or 4 forums after ATS.
It's like Jesus apostles becoming all the different sects a hundred years later.
If I were you I would get my money back.....
RE: Episode 1 - listen live! - MykeNukem - 03-19-2026
(03-19-2026, 03:08 PM)sahgwa Wrote:(03-19-2026, 02:30 PM)MykeNukem Wrote: Heya Guys & Gals,That's great; thanks for doing what you do .
Just wanted to announce that Episode 1 (almost 2!) of Ksihkehe's CypherAge podcast will be airing this Saturday at 8pm EST.
Ksihkehe and I will be covering all the crap that went down with DI, including the BTC donations and grifting, hacking, censorship, banning for questions, staff support, etc. We believe the community deserves the full story.
We'll also be covering other topics but will be focused on the info in these threads: The ATS Archive and ATATW. As they seem the most pertinent to recent events.
Anyone with questions or if you just want to argue,
I figure, screw it, let's get it ALL out there, this community has been in the dark long enough! Put this to rest, once and for all.
If there are any changes, I'll post here.
Also, if you're not the type to participate in podcasts, feel free to ask whatever questions you have here and I'll be sure to include them! Keep it civil, please!
Thanks,
Myke
I wish we hadn't splintered up into like 3 or 4 forums after ATS.
It's like Jesus apostles becoming all the different sects a hundred years later.
If I were you I would get my money back.....
Well, in a way it's turned out to be a blessing, as, our forums all communicate and possibly collaborate now, instead of keeping secrets from membership. We're a little more spread out, but still one community, really.
A birdy told me you have a forum too? I'd like a link to your forum too, please.
I don't want my money back, just hoping it ends up in good hands.