(03-15-2026, 03:54 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:46 PM)putnam6 Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:37 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:36 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:25 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I hate wars that are started by homicidal maniacs and power hungry and greedy elitist that think they are untouchable and above the law.

If that's true then you would hate the government of Iran, including their clerics.
Because they've been engaged in an unending war for 50 years.

Iran didn't start this war, Israel did and dragged Trump along by the nose.

So forget the 47 years of suffering of the millions of average Iranian women at the hands of fanatical clerics who think women, your mothers, daughters, and sisters are subhuman animals to be used and abused by men?

The hypocrisy is thick...

The hypocrisy is thick because you nor your government give a rat's ass about the women in that country, nor in Afghanistan where you left that vile mess and where women are now the most abused in the world.

Keep your sympathies for the incarcerated women raped by ICE, with the women in some of your states where women have no dominion over their bodies, and where pastors like that Wilson guy want to strip women of their human and voting rights and whom Hegseth kisses his feet.

(03-15-2026, 05:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:44 PM)quintessentone Wrote: If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they could have done it easily within that timeframe. Israel can't win any wars without the USA .

Not old enough to remember the Six Day War, I see.

Quote:It's not about that it's about Zionist donors buying your government leaders to push Zionist expansionist goals in that region.

That is perilously close to the White Supremacist doctrine regarding the "ZOG" (Zionist Occupation Government) in America. I remember the KKK pushing that pretty hard.

No one else back then, just the White Supremacists.

Are yo asserting that the White Supremacists were correct in their assumptions?

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 BREAKING:

A telecom complex in Hamedan was just bombed, and citizens are reporting that their internet just returned at full speed.

Still need to verify, but BIG if true.

• The post reports an unverified Israeli strike on Hamedan's telecom complex, claiming it restored full-speed internet by disrupting regime censorship; NetBlocks later confirmed a collapse in Iran's AS12880 network, validating the connectivity surge.
  
• Attached video shows a beige building engulfed in flames and smoke, consistent with eyewitness footage of the targeted site amid escalating U.S.-Israeli airstrikes on Iranian infrastructure since early March 2026.
  
• This event underscores Iran's "halal internet" restrictions, where throttling foreign access limits speeds to 1 Mbps; the strike's "fail-open" effect inadvertently empowers citizens, echoing the author's advocacy for regime change.
  

Quote:Goldie Ghamari | گلسا قمری ??
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"? They just hit the telecom complex in Hamadan, internet's gotten super fast now"

If this is true, the world is about to hear the roar of 90 million Iranians who have been silenced by the terrorist Islamic Republic occupying Iran for the last 16 days.
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? They just hit the telecom complex in Hamadan, internet's gotten super fast now??

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@NiohBerg
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??? BREAKING:

A telecom complex in Hamedan was just bombed, and citizens are reporting that their internet just returned at full speed.

Still need to verify, but BIG if true.

(03-15-2026, 05:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Israel attacked first, so they do have the right to defend themselves. 

(03-15-2026, 05:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I will not be surprised if this attack will force Iran to now build those nuclear weapons as deterrents.

(03-15-2026, 05:28 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:54 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:46 PM)putnam6 Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:37 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:36 PM)YesItsMe Wrote: If that's true then you would hate the government of Iran, including their clerics.
Because they've been engaged in an unending war for 50 years.

Iran didn't start this war, Israel did and dragged Trump along by the nose.

So forget the 47 years of suffering of the millions of average Iranian women at the hands of fanatical clerics who think women, your mothers, daughters, and sisters are subhuman animals to be used and abused by men?

The hypocrisy is thick...

The hypocrisy is thick because you nor your government give a rat's ass about the women in that country, nor in Afghanistan where you left that vile mess and where women are now the most abused in the world.

Keep your sympathies for the incarcerated women raped by ICE, with the women in some of your states where women have no dominion over their bodies, and where pastors like that Wilson guy want to strip women of their human and voting rights and whom Hegseth kisses his feet.

And there it is. Now we're making it a personal attack against another member. Not gonna fly here.

You might assume the desires and motivations of a government without cause, but not an individual. You are not them, and have nary a clue as to what they may or may not "give a rat's ass" about.

There are no states, at least not in the US, where "women have no dominion over their own bodies". None. Not a single one, anywhere in the US. That is a claim with neither proof nor evidence, and indeed there cannot be any such evidence, much less proof. Because it's not there. Oh, the Left TRIED to remove that dominion during the covid scare, but they were not successful. At least they were equal opportunity totalitarians about it - they tried to remove EVERYONE'S dominion over their own bodies, both male and female.

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(03-15-2026, 04:08 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:54 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Keep your sympathies for the incarcerated women raped by ICE, 

My God.  Where do you get your propaganda from?   IRAN is where women are constantly thrown in prison and raped for things like showing a little hair from their hijabs.   There is no government sanctioned activity where ICE throws innocent women in jail and rapes them.   There was ONE person who ALLEGEDLY sexually assaulted an illegal alien woman detainee.

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(03-15-2026, 04:05 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Iran is striking back 

No.  Iran has been initiating this for 50 years.  It wants war.  It's the whole reason it exists.  They think they exist to fight along side their fake Mahdi in an end of the world war that will slaughter all the nonMuslims.   They think the Muslim nations will join them.   This is basic stuff.

(03-15-2026, 05:36 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Israel attacked first, so they do have the right to defend themselves. 

No.  Iran has been attacking Israel for 50 years.   And they have promised to wipe Israel off the map.  (their words).  And they are engaged in a nuclear weapons program.   So ISRAEL has a right to defend itself.   Iran is not defending itself.  It's the aggressor.

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(03-15-2026, 05:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I will not be surprised if this attack will force Iran to now build those nuclear weapons as deterrents.

Iran was already building nuclear weapons.  And not as deterrents.  But as an aggressive takeover of the middle east.  And they weren't being 'forced' to build them.  They were doing so because of their religion and their fake imaginary Mahdi coming who they think they'll fight along side.

(03-15-2026, 05:43 PM)quintessentone Wrote: You win the propaganda award here.

(03-15-2026, 05:50 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:43 PM)quintessentone Wrote: You win the propaganda award here.

Everything I posted is true, common knowledge to those without agenda and easily proven.

(03-15-2026, 04:16 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Afghanistan has the most horrific domestic violence against women in the world and guess which country created that or allowed that happen? Don't see it? Don't care?

(03-15-2026, 05:30 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:44 PM)quintessentone Wrote: If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they could have done it easily within that timeframe. Israel can't win any wars without the USA .

Not old enough to remember the Six Day War, I see.

Quote:It's not about that it's about Zionist donors buying your government leaders to push Zionist expansionist goals in that region.

That is perilously close to the White Supremacist doctrine regarding the "ZOG" (Zionist Occupation Government) in America. I remember the KKK pushing that pretty hard.

No one else back then, just the White Supremacists.

Are yo asserting that the White Supremacists were correct in their assumptions?

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I followed the money and I hazard a guess so do the extreme right wingers in your country.

"Miriam Adelson, a dual Israeli-American billionaire and widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, is one of the most prominent Zionist billionaires to donate to Donald Trump’s campaign.  She has contributed $100 million to Trump’s 2024 campaign through her political action committee (PAC), making her the single largest donor to his re-election effort.  Her support has been tied to her staunch pro-Israel stance, including advocating for the annexation of the occupied West Bank and pushing for U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty over disputed territories."

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/miriam-adelson-who-is-israeli-billionaire-backing-trump

Quote:Does Trumps support of Israel goes way back to before he was President
Yes, Donald Trump's support for Israel does extend back well before his presidency began in 2017, though it became more prominently political during his 2015–2016 campaign. Here's a breakdown based on historical records:

• Early 2000s actions: In 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks, Trump provided his private plane to then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for a solidarity visit to Israel amid terror threats, demonstrating early backing for the country.  In 2004, during a period of heightened violence in the Gaza Strip, Trump served as the grand marshal of the annual Salute to Israel Parade in New York City—the largest pro-Israel gathering in the U.S. at the time—despite the risks, as many others declined the role.  He has described himself as a "lifelong supporter" of Israel in this context.
  
• Pre-campaign statements and ties: Trump's real estate business in New York involved significant connections to Jewish and pro-Israel communities. For instance, in 2015 (before his presidential run gained full steam), he recorded a video endorsing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reelection, calling himself a "big fan of Israel" and emphasizing the need for a strong Israeli leader.  His daughter Ivanka's marriage to Jared Kushner in 2009 and her conversion to Judaism further deepened personal family links to Jewish and Israeli causes.
  
• Campaign evolution: During his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump's stance solidified into strong pro-Israel rhetoric, such as pledging to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.  However, earlier in the campaign (around 2015–2016), he occasionally suggested a "neutral" approach to Israel-Palestine negotiations to appeal broadly, which drew criticism from some pro-Israel groups.  By his presidency, this shifted to highly supportive policies like recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.
  

Overall, while Trump's most visible pro-Israel actions occurred during and after his first term (e.g., the Abraham Accords), his personal and public support traces back at least to the early 2000s through philanthropy, events, and statements.

Quote:Kamala Harris (2024)
• Largest: Future Forward USA (pro-Harris super PAC/nonprofit arm) — $267.5 million.
This dominated outside spending supporting her (she inherited Biden's committee, renamed Harris for President). Much of it is dark money (undisclosed donors). Known major individual behind portions: Microsoft founder Bill Gates reportedly gave $50 million to the group.
• Next: Asana (tech firm) — $50 million (primarily from co-founder Dustin Moskovitz and his wife Cari Tuna, major tech/Dem megadonors; other reports peg their direct giving around $38 million to pro-Harris efforts).
• Other big ones: American Bridge 21st Century ($45.5M), Bloomberg LP ($19M).
• Overall context: Harris's campaign + aligned groups raised nearly $2 billion total. Megadonors like Moskovitz, Gates, Michael Bloomberg, and Reid Hoffman powered the super PAC side.

(03-15-2026, 05:55 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 04:16 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Afghanistan has the most horrific domestic violence against women in the world and guess which country created that or allowed that happen? Don't see it? Don't care?

Pakistan.

The Taliban, current government of Afghanistan and arbiter of "morals" there, was wholly and entirely created by Pakistani ISI in or around 1993 as a means of exercising Pakistani control over Afghanistan via a proxy / puppet government. This occurred in the power vacuum left by the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, which the US also declined to fill.

The original taliban was recruited from Pakistani madrasas by Pakistani ISI. a "madrasa" is a school, and it is built into the very name of the Taliban - "taliban" means "students". One student is a "talib".

As is usual with these sorts of things, however, the Taliban grew beyond Pakistani control, and is now a thorn in their side instead.

Original US culpability is in not filling the power vacuum left by the Soviets ourselves. Some of us argued strongly in favor of doing just that, but we were ignored. We weren't even over-ruled... just ignored.

Secondary US culpability lies with the BidenHarris administration in the US, who ran away from Afghanistan so fast it left a hole in the air... and yet another power vacuum to be filled. The Taliban was the only immediately available force to fill it.

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(03-15-2026, 05:59 PM)putnam6 Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:30 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:44 PM)quintessentone Wrote: If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they could have done it easily within that timeframe. Israel can't win any wars without the USA .

Not old enough to remember the Six Day War, I see.

Quote:It's not about that it's about Zionist donors buying your government leaders to push Zionist expansionist goals in that region.

That is perilously close to the White Supremacist doctrine regarding the "ZOG" (Zionist Occupation Government) in America. I remember the KKK pushing that pretty hard.

No one else back then, just the White Supremacists.

Are yo asserting that the White Supremacists were correct in their assumptions?

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I followed the money and I hazard a guess so do the extreme right wingers in your country.

"Miriam Adelson, a dual Israeli-American billionaire and widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, is one of the most prominent Zionist billionaires to donate to Donald Trump’s campaign.  She has contributed $100 million to Trump’s 2024 campaign through her political action committee (PAC), making her the single largest donor to his re-election effort.  Her support has been tied to her staunch pro-Israel stance, including advocating for the annexation of the occupied West Bank and pushing for U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty over disputed territories."

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/miriam-adelson-who-is-israeli-billionaire-backing-trump

As if the left doesn't take in money from questionable sources

If PACs were illegal, Hillary, Joe, and Kamala's campaigns would have run out of funds in 3 months.

Trumps support of Israel goes way back to before he was President

Quote:Does Trumps support of Israel goes way back to before he was President
Yes, Donald Trump's support for Israel does extend back well before his presidency began in 2017, though it became more prominently political during his 2015–2016 campaign. Here's a breakdown based on historical records:

• Early 2000s actions: In 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks, Trump provided his private plane to then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for a solidarity visit to Israel amid terror threats, demonstrating early backing for the country.  In 2004, during a period of heightened violence in the Gaza Strip, Trump served as the grand marshal of the annual Salute to Israel Parade in New York City—the largest pro-Israel gathering in the U.S. at the time—despite the risks, as many others declined the role.  He has described himself as a "lifelong supporter" of Israel in this context.
  
• Pre-campaign statements and ties: Trump's real estate business in New York involved significant connections to Jewish and pro-Israel communities. For instance, in 2015 (before his presidential run gained full steam), he recorded a video endorsing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reelection, calling himself a "big fan of Israel" and emphasizing the need for a strong Israeli leader.  His daughter Ivanka's marriage to Jared Kushner in 2009 and her conversion to Judaism further deepened personal family links to Jewish and Israeli causes.
  
• Campaign evolution: During his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump's stance solidified into strong pro-Israel rhetoric, such as pledging to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.  However, earlier in the campaign (around 2015–2016), he occasionally suggested a "neutral" approach to Israel-Palestine negotiations to appeal broadly, which drew criticism from some pro-Israel groups.  By his presidency, this shifted to highly supportive policies like recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.
  

Overall, while Trump's most visible pro-Israel actions occurred during and after his first term (e.g., the Abraham Accords), his personal and public support traces back at least to the early 2000s through philanthropy, events, and statements.

I don't like it, but every country is ruled by money... 

How much is Carney taking in from China or the Middle East? 

It's the nature of the political governance beast.

All the world's governments have "procedural issues," systematic flaws in the body politic. 

End 2-party monopoly
Ban lobbying and PACS
real terms limits and age restrictions

(03-15-2026, 04:28 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Some of your states governments sanction taking away a woman's right to choose. Look in your own backyard first before throwing stones at others.

(03-15-2026, 06:05 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 04:28 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Some of your states governments sanction taking away a woman's right to choose. Look in your own backyard first before throwing stones at others.

I'm not sure where that information comes from, but it is DISinformation. There is not a single state government in America that takes away a woman's "right to choose". There are a few who recognize no right to infanticide or the murder of children, but not a single one that removes the "right to choose".

A woman exercises her "right to choose" by either having or refusing to have unprotected sex. Any person who has been through US sex education, and I think that is probably every single person in America at this point, knows the  potential ramifications of that action.

So, that is where the "right to choose" happens. Not a single state removes that right, nor indeed can they. It is utterly impossible for a state to remove the right to choice.

Then again, this is a thread about the war in Iran, now isn't it?

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(03-15-2026, 04:35 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 04:32 PM)The Crying Bunny Wrote: Well, I'm glad the US and Israel are finally doing this to Iran.

We've had every president since Carter ignore Iran, or appease or bribe Iran.

Next is Cuba!

I wonder if Russia will repeat the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and give them the means to prevent American aggression and piracy on their land?

(03-15-2026, 06:07 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 04:35 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 04:32 PM)The Crying Bunny Wrote: Well, I'm glad the US and Israel are finally doing this to Iran.

We've had every president since Carter ignore Iran, or appease or bribe Iran.

Next is Cuba!

I wonder if Russia will repeat the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and give them the means to prevent American aggression and piracy on their land?

Probably. It worked out so well for them last time, now didn't it? I see no reason for them not to repeat the same mistake over and over and over again...

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(03-15-2026, 06:07 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 06:05 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 04:28 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Some of your states governments sanction taking away a woman's right to choose. Look in your own backyard first before throwing stones at others.

I'm not sure where that information comes from, but it is DISinformation. There is not a single state government in America that takes away a woman's "right to choose". There are a few who recognize no right to infanticide or the murder of children, but not a single one that removes the "right to choose".

A woman exercises her "right to choose" by either having or refusing to have unprotected sex. Any person who has been through US sex education, and I think that is probably every single person in America at this point, knows the  potential ramifications of that action.

So, that is where the "right to choose" happens. Not a single state removes that right, nor indeed can they. It is utterly impossible for a state to remove the right to choice.

Then again, this is a thread about the war in Iran, now isn't it?

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Yes, but it is also about hypocrisy between factions and propaganda.

(03-15-2026, 05:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Israel attacked first, so they do have the right to defend themselves. International Law states:

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(03-15-2026, 05:30 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:44 PM)quintessentone Wrote: If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they could have done it easily within that timeframe. Israel can't win any wars without the USA .

Not old enough to remember the Six Day War, I see.

Quote:It's not about that it's about Zionist donors buying your government leaders to push Zionist expansionist goals in that region.

That is perilously close to the White Supremacist doctrine regarding the "ZOG" (Zionist Occupation Government) in America. I remember the KKK pushing that pretty hard.

No one else back then, just the White Supremacists.

Are yo asserting that the White Supremacists were correct in their assumptions?

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I followed the money and I hazard a guess so do the extreme right wingers in your country.

"Miriam Adelson, a dual Israeli-American billionaire and widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, is one of the most prominent Zionist billionaires to donate to Donald Trump’s campaign.  She has contributed $100 million to Trump’s 2024 campaign through her political action committee (PAC), making her the single largest donor to his re-election effort.  Her support has been tied to her staunch pro-Israel stance, including advocating for the annexation of the occupied West Bank and pushing for U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty over disputed territories."

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/miriam-adelson-who-is-israeli-billionaire-backing-trump

(03-15-2026, 06:29 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:30 PM)quintessentone Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 05:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(03-15-2026, 03:44 PM)quintessentone Wrote: If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they could have done it easily within that timeframe. Israel can't win any wars without the USA .

Not old enough to remember the Six Day War, I see.

Quote:It's not about that it's about Zionist donors buying your government leaders to push Zionist expansionist goals in that region.

That is perilously close to the White Supremacist doctrine regarding the "ZOG" (Zionist Occupation Government) in America. I remember the KKK pushing that pretty hard.

No one else back then, just the White Supremacists.

Are yo asserting that the White Supremacists were correct in their assumptions?

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I followed the money and I hazard a guess so do the extreme right wingers in your country.

"Miriam Adelson, a dual Israeli-American billionaire and widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, is one of the most prominent Zionist billionaires to donate to Donald Trump’s campaign.  She has contributed $100 million to Trump’s 2024 campaign through her political action committee (PAC), making her the single largest donor to his re-election effort.  Her support has been tied to her staunch pro-Israel stance, including advocating for the annexation of the occupied West Bank and pushing for U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty over disputed territories."

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/miriam-adelson-who-is-israeli-billionaire-backing-trump

That's an excellent argument in favor of campaign finance reform, but not such a good argument for the existence of a "ZOG" in America. A quick brush-up on the old White Supremacist literature - maybe the "Turner Diaries" or something like that - might provide a better argument in that regard.


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