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RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-12-2025
In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with Gerry Tedesco, John Tedesco and Donna Lee Nardo of Nightcrawler Research, a data-centric UAP research team whose work has caught the attention of the FBI. Together, they discuss the three anomalous objects they've recorded in New York, their conversations with the FBI and how each object affected the camera quality while they recorded every instance.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-12-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-13-2025
Before Roswell or Kenneth Arnold's sighting, Udo Andree Wartena (July 22, 1903 - December 15, 1989 in Oregon City, Oregon) was a Dutch-born gold miner who was reported by Warren Aston to have told friends in 1989, near the end of his life, that he had sighted a disc-shaped object and encountered its pilots during May 1940 while prospecting at the base of Boulder Mountain near Confederate Gulch in Broadwater County, Montana. Lecture by Australian researcher Warren P. Aston from 1997. Intriguing case and too bad he wasn't able to tell his story before 1947.
Udo Wartena's 1940 alien encounter incident and the nanotechnology connection:
I found the second half (nanotechnology) very interesting for a 1997 lecture. I didn't become aware of nanotech use until circa 2009.
Alien encounter: In 1940, a UFO reportedly landed in Broadwater County to take on water...
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The Independent-Record Newspaper
Quote:At an isolated location miner Udo Wartena saw a large disc shaped object about 35 foot high and over 100 feet across hovering above a meadow. The object resembled two soup plates, one inverted over the other and stainless steel in appearance. Wartena then saw a staircase unfold from the bottom of the craft. Out of it came a man who asked him if the ship could take some water. The man then invited Wartena inside the object. Wartena accepted and met another man inside that told him they had come from a distant planet and were 609 years old and the other over 900.
Udo Wartena Contact Case in 1940 (transcripted from above video - UFO Evidence website)
Udo Andree Wartena (FamilySearch)
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-14-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-17-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-21-2025
Before you get gas lit to watch the CIA Big Budget sensationalized propaganda movie, Age of Disclo$ure, checkout the first UFO documentary ever made!
On November 17, 1950: Telenews Productions releases a 9.5-minute short film, The Flying Saucer Mystery, apparently the first UFO documentary.
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The film’s main focus is on the best new evidence of 1950, the alleged first authentic photographs and motion picture film of flying saucers, the two snapshots by farmer Paul Trent, and the film shot by Louisville, Kentucky Times photographer Al Hixenbaugh on June 27, 1950.
It also features UFO witness Arthur Weisberger of Tucson, Arizona, describing his sighting, apparently the only record of the event, as well as Donald E. Keyhoe and Admiral Calvin M. Bolster.
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The film is apparently only shown for a few months and rotates among the Telenews Theaters across the nation. It is lost for decades until it resurfaces in the 1990s.
Here's the film:
"The Flying Saucer Mystery" ~ 1950 original + 1952 revised edition:
Quote:Donald E. Keyhoe:
“After a one year’s investigation, I believe that the flying saucers seen by veteran airline and Air Force pilots are objects from another planet. The Air Force itself has officially admitted that flying saucers exist. This statement appears in Project Saucer case number 75. Not only that, the Air Force has officially analyzed the motives of possible visitors from space. Here is a direct quotation from the official report:
‘Such a civilization might observe that on earth we now have atomic bombs and are fast developing rockets. In the past history of mankind, they should be alarmed. We should therefore expect at this time, above all, to behold such visitations.’”
From Curt Collins blog, The Saucers That Time Forgot article:
The First UFO Documentary: The Flying Saucer Mystery with transcript of the film.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-23-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-23-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-25-2025
Gray Barker, Books, and Saucers an Interview with author Gabriel McKee
RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 11-25-2025
(11-25-2025, 04:16 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Gray Barker, Books, and Saucers an Interview with author Gabriel McKee
Barker was quite the showman. I think Keyhoe was the straightest of those earlier authors.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-27-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-27-2025
In August 1983 Betty agreed to appear on the F. Lee Bailey Lie Detector show, a popular television programme where a lie detector was used live on-air to test the veracity of statements made by those appearing on the show. Betty was asked three questions:
Did you initially receive the star map information while onboard a UFO?
Did you obtain it from a source other than a UFO?
Do you believe your star map is a hoax?
The lie detector test was administered by Ed Gault, the President of the American Polygraph Association. Betty’s answers to all three questions (Yes, No and No) were judged to be truthful.
The Live TV Polygraph Test of Betty Hill’s Alien Abduction Experience (Audio only)
RE: Some more UFO stuff - babushka - 11-27-2025
(11-27-2025, 04:22 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: In August 1983 Betty agreed to appear on the F. Lee Bailey Lie Detector show, a popular television programme where a lie detector was used live on-air to test the veracity of statements made by those appearing on the show. Betty was asked three questions:
Did you initially receive the star map information while onboard a UFO?
Did you obtain it from a source other than a UFO?
Do you believe your star map is a hoax?
The lie detector test was administered by Ed Gault, the President of the American Polygraph Association. Betty’s answers to all three questions (Yes, No and No) were judged to be truthful.
The Live TV Polygraph Test of Betty Hill’s Alien Abduction Experience (Audio only)
was that before or after hypnosis? They didn't know anything before the memory regression?
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-29-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-29-2025
(11-27-2025, 05:23 AM)babushka Wrote:(11-27-2025, 04:22 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: In August 1983 Betty agreed to appear on the F. Lee Bailey Lie Detector show, a popular television programme where a lie detector was used live on-air to test the veracity of statements made by those appearing on the show. Betty was asked three questions:
Did you initially receive the star map information while onboard a UFO?
Did you obtain it from a source other than a UFO?
Do you believe your star map is a hoax?
The lie detector test was administered by Ed Gault, the President of the American Polygraph Association. Betty’s answers to all three questions (Yes, No and No) were judged to be truthful.
The Live TV Polygraph Test of Betty Hill’s Alien Abduction Experience (Audio only)
was that before or after hypnosis? They didn't know anything before the memory regression?
That was long after hypnosis. I think back in 1963. So, about 20 years to germinate & flourish.
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November 28, 1955: Henry Holt publishes Donald Keyhoe’s The Flying Saucer Conspiracy, which continues to criticize the “silence group” within the US military for its conspiracy to cover up knowledge of UFOs.
Keyhoe argues that 'the United States has developed protocols in dealing with UFOs and actively undertakes measures to silence critics and hide the existence of extraterrestrial life.
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Against the Odds: Major Donald E. Keyhoe and His Battle to End UFO Secrecy (Amazon link)
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The Saucerian: UFOs, Men in Black, and the Unbelievable Life of Gray Barker (Amazon link)
Here's a PDF of The Flying Saucer Conspiracy from NICAP.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-30-2025
RE: Some more UFO stuff - babushka - 11-30-2025
Doesn't look like fox news knows what to do with the news. Viewers are not impressed with the info either, portrayed as psyops all round in the comments.
Personally I would keep an open mind on such things.
Interesting that Tim said no one knows their intentions
hmmm, biologics, what is up with that? Better sounding the corpses/carcasses what do you call a dead alien? Maybe they have exoskeletons and goop inside so chunks of meat are out of order.
Tried renting the movie now and can't, not allowed in my country. Can't rent anything from amazon
RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 12-01-2025
(11-27-2025, 05:23 AM)babushka Wrote:(11-27-2025, 04:22 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: In August 1983 Betty agreed to appear on the F. Lee Bailey Lie Detector show, a popular television programme where a lie detector was used live on-air to test the veracity of statements made by those appearing on the show. Betty was asked three questions:
Did you initially receive the star map information while onboard a UFO?
Did you obtain it from a source other than a UFO?
Do you believe your star map is a hoax?
The lie detector test was administered by Ed Gault, the President of the American Polygraph Association. Betty’s answers to all three questions (Yes, No and No) were judged to be truthful.
The Live TV Polygraph Test of Betty Hill’s Alien Abduction Experience (Audio only)
was that before or after hypnosis? They didn't know anything before the memory regression?
It was almost 20 years after the hypnotic regression, which was conducted by Dr. Benjamin Simon. Barney and Betty knew "something" before the hypnosis sessions, but did not have many details - they knew they'd seen a light in the sky, and that they had lost about 2 hours of unexplained time. The hypnosis filled in the details of that missing 2 hours..
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 12-01-2025
(11-30-2025, 04:47 PM)babushka Wrote: Doesn't look like fox news knows what to do with the news. Viewers are not impressed with the info either, portrayed as psyops all round in the comments.
Personally I would keep an open mind on such things.
Interesting that Tim said no one knows their intentions
hmmm, biologics, what is up with that? Better sounding the corpses/carcasses what do you call a dead alien? Maybe they have exoskeletons and goop inside so chunks of meat are out of order.
Tried renting the movie now and can't, not allowed in my country. Can't rent anything from amazon
"Disclosure" and "COVID-18" are two of the biggest psyops that have been run on the general public in quite a long time, and both appear to have met with a fairly high degree of success. Both have all the earmarks of psychological operations.
Any time someone says "I'll tell you what I can, but there are things I can't tell you", that is code for "I'm going to tell you exactly what I have been tasked to tell you, in order to influence your thinking in the direction 'they' want it to go"... and that is pretty much the definition of a psyop. They are agents, not "whistle blowers". A whistle blower is a whistle blower precisely BECAUSE he tells things that are not supposed to be told.
Those running this pysop will "disclose" exactly what they want you to believe (whether "truth" or not) in order to achieve their own ends, and nothing more.
"Biologics" just means a "meat machine" It is an organism, a machine constructed by nature rather than people. It doesn't speak to whether that machine is inactive ("dead") or active ("alive").
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 12-01-2025
US Air Force alleged first UFO tracking project with gun camera equipped B-29s.
Interviews with Lt. Col. Wendelle C. Stevens from 1992 and 1996 on his mission in Alaska... "Anomalous Ariel Phenomena" in 1947.
WWII pilots discuss their "Foo Fighter" UFO encounters