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RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-11-2026 Interview and discussion between Stanton Friedman & Budd Hopkins discussing genetics, bloodlines and Greys/aliens tracking abductees. Hosted by the one & only spiritual leader, New Ager, Guru Ma, Mother of the Flame, Elizabeth Clare Prophet [1939-2009] of the "I AM" cult. Faces of an alien and the terror of the ET abduction phenomenon discussed by Budd Hopkins, 1988: The stated mission of The Summit Lighthouse is to "publish and apply the teachings of the ascended masters as taught by Mark and Elizabeth Clare Prophet." Ascended Masters are believed to be individuals who have lived in physical bodies, acquired the wisdom and mastery needed to become Immortal and free of the cycles of "re-embodiment" and karma, and have attained their "Ascension." "It is gloriously bizarre and fascinating, but it is also exceedingly strange." Ted Koppel on Elizabeth Clare Prophet's cult, Church Universal and Triumphant. Nightline, ABC, May 17, 1990.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-14-2026 Quote:James Fox is a dog with a bone, as obsessed as Captain Ahab’s in his pursuit of Moby Dick, as dogged as Indiana Jones’s quest for the Holy Grail. Fox, one of the best-known documentary filmmakers to ever focus on the UFO mystery, has spent 14 long years investigating an astounding series of events often referred to as ‘the Brazilian Roswell.’ Fox's 2022 film “Moment of Contact” revealed powerful testimony from an impressive array of independent witnesses in and around Varginha, Brazil, some of whom saw the craft, the crash, the large deployment of military personnel, and the capture of at least one of the injured crew members who fled from the disabled UFO. The being was described as a bizarre, oily-skinned, nonhuman entity, one that seemed intelligent, injured, and frightened. In the years since the release of that film, Fox has returned to Brazil multiple times to seek out the rumored medical team which met, treated, and communicated with the alien life form. Now, he is unveiling the rest of the story. In this episode of Weaponized, James Fox shares with Jeremy and George the story of how he tracked down the key witnesses who have previously been too frightened to say anything, why they were intimidated and by whom, and details about a wide-ranging cover-up that is still active nearly 30 years after the original events. A new, updated version of his film has now been released, and a major media event is being staged just days from now. On January 20, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Fox will introduce several of the firsthand witnesses. Getting them into the US proved to be difficult and Fox says his pursuit of a videotaped recording of the creature also drew the attention of unknown saboteurs. Fox also revealed to Weaponized a secondary objective of the January news conference. He wants the US military and intelligence community to tell Congress what became of the creature, and any other evidence related to non-human beings that may have been recovered from documented UFO crashes in the US and elsewhere. (The public is invited to attend the event and media personnel will be permitted to livestream the entire event.) The Varginha UFO crash is one of the seminal events in history. The mystery surrounding what became of the injured crew member has the potential to blow the lid off of an 80-year cover-up that is still underway. RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-15-2026 RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-16-2026 RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 01-17-2026 (01-15-2026, 01:35 AM)727Sky Wrote: Do you know what else can move through the skies silently, hover silently, and suddenly accelerate to blinding speed without generating shock waves or sonic booms or liquefying human occupants? Holograms. Holograms can do all of that. Do you know what can't do it? Physical objects. Disregarding aerodynamics of flight, any object that moves in atmosphere, regardless of propulsion methods, displaces air. When it moves rapidly, it displaces air rapidly. If it moves rapidly enough - faster than about 1100 feet per second, as I recall, it displaces air rapidly enough to create a shock wave, resulting in a sonic boom. So engine noises are moot in that case. Air is not displaced by holographic images. Radar goes right through them, doesn't bounce off of them, and so there is no radar return from them, either, since they are not physical objects. My money says they were testing some sort of hologram projector to assess psych war potentials, and to wind up the people down there in the way of distraction. If it assesses favorably, it might soon be coming to a neighborhood near you... wherever "you" may be. Minneapolis or Tehran strike me as good test beds currently.... ========================================== Right after I left here for the hub of military activity in Newport News, Va, there was a huge rash of triangular craft sightings in the county just south of here, Wythe County, right around Wytheville, VA. I've often wondered about that. It would have been in the mid 1980's. . RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-18-2026 (01-17-2026, 06:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Right after I left here for the hub of military activity in Newport News, Va, there was a huge rash of triangular craft sightings in the county just south of here, Wythe County, right around Wytheville, VA. I've often wondered about that. It would have been in the mid 1980's. While I agree Holograms would answer much of the actions by some observed craft the hologram theory does nothing to explain the radar lock-ons and the underwater tracked craft along with the observed entry and exit with no splash .... RE: Some more UFO stuff - Bally002 - 01-18-2026 (01-17-2026, 06:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(01-15-2026, 01:35 AM)727Sky Wrote: While I agree with the hologram thoughts I tend to think that objects that lock on radar in the sky (Nimitz encounter comes to mind) and sought out by pilots who witness encounters of such while locked on leads me to suppose there are aircraft capable of accelerating to blinding speeds without air displacement or sonic booms of such nature. Same for USO's on sonar. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hnbnOhYRAeA?feature=share Cheers, Bally) RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-18-2026 (01-18-2026, 01:47 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(01-17-2026, 06:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(01-15-2026, 01:35 AM)727Sky Wrote: Admiral Bobby Ray Inman knows all about the USOs. ![]() The National Underwater Reconnaissance Office (NURO) is the US Navy’s secret Black Budget Research division within the NRO. You'll find next to nothing on NURO on the interwebs. I have no doubt some observations such as many last century were done with hologram technology. Aside from that in recent years we have all kinds of drone technology plus a supersonic plane with no sonic boom. Remember that time during Watergate when General Edward Lansdale planned to fake the second coming of a pro-US Christ using submarine-mounted holograms to distract/manipulate the catholic population of Cuba long enough to stage and justify an invasion? Jacques Vallée mentions this in a late 80s (1987?) interview. EARTH = Environmentally Advanced Rendered Toroidal Hologram HUMANS = Holographic Unified Metaphysically Applied Neurologic System =============== The Nature of Alien Activity: Facts, Evidence & Deception (Karla Turner, 1995) Lectures by Dr. Karla Turner (1992-1995) RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 01-18-2026 (01-18-2026, 12:01 AM)727Sky Wrote: While I agree Holograms would answer much of the actions by some observed craft the hologram theory does nothing to explain the radar lock-ons and the underwater tracked craft along with the observed entry and exit with no splash .... Radar locks and underwater tracking (which I presume are done by sonar), no. Holograms can not explain those, as they require (normally) physical objects to interact with. You cannot bounce something off of nothing. Radar returns CAN be generated and sent to radar antenna to mimic contact with an object, and have been done, but that requires a host of ancillary conditions that are probably not met with generally in UFO sightings. Entering/exiting water without splashing, well yes holograms could explain that pretty handily - water splashes are to water bodies what sound waves are to atmospheres. They are just displacements of masses of molecules by something, some object, displacing them. Holograms would not be able to displace masses of air or water molecules, so no splashing when breaching those boundaries just as there would be no sound when moving through air at high speeds. With that said, I don't think holograms are a satisfactory explanation for the bulk of sightings, only for a small minority of cases with carefully controlled conditions. I think that particular sighting in Venezuela may meet those conditions, not the least of which would be a reason to go to the expense and trouble of generating a holographic image to begin with. That one condition alone would rule out the majority of sightings as holograms. Holograms are not the only possible explanation for submergings of that nature, but I don't know what the other explanations might be. For example many years ago, I was down in Gray's Cave in Russell County, VA. Gray's Cave is an oponing in a vast underground cave system that runs for at least 12 miles, underground. Daugherty's Cave, 6 miles eastward from Gray;s, is another opening to that system, and there is another, pretty large opening 6 miles to the west that is also in that same cave system. So anyhow, I was underground in Gray's Cave, and had made my way to a place where there was an underground river there. Out in the river, there was what I took to be a smooth rock, about 5 feet long and two feet wide, fairly smooth as if it had been worn down by eons of water erosion, and gray in color. It just looked like a big oval piece of water worn limestone to me... but, as I watched and my light played along it, it simply sank into the river with nary a splash nor a ripple. Granted, it wasn't a UFO, but I still don't know what it WAS, and in any event the submersion without a splash or ripple is something I cannot explain to this day, and holograms can not explain it, either - for a hologram to work, there must be an unobstructed line of sight from the projector to the hologram, and I can't think of any way that could happen a couple hundred feet underground. So, I presented holograms as a possibility for that one narrow Venezuelan case. I don't think they, or any other explanation, is a panacea that could explain them all, nor do I think that is the only possible explanation for the Venezuela case. It's just another possibility for consideration. . RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 01-18-2026 (01-18-2026, 12:01 AM)727Sky Wrote:(01-17-2026, 06:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Right after I left here for the hub of military activity in Newport News, Va, there was a huge rash of triangular craft sightings in the county just south of here, Wythe County, right around Wytheville, VA. I've often wondered about that. It would have been in the mid 1980's. During the events at Fatima in 1917, one of the lesser known aspect of the events was the children mentioned a wind suddenly rising before the appearance of the Holy Mother. This has been associated with UFO sightings as well. My take is that something solid is entering our time-space and displacing a lot of air as it does so.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - babushka - 01-19-2026 (01-18-2026, 08:52 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: During the events at Fatima in 1917, one of the lesser known aspect of the events was the children mentioned a wind suddenly rising before the appearance of the Holy Mother. This has been associated with UFO sightings as well. My take is that something solid is entering our time-space and displacing a lot of air as it does so. Sudden gusts of wind is commonly reported on many supernatural encounters, Acts 2:2-4. Quote:2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them. RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-21-2026 Quote:Prophets and ancient texts from civilizations across the globe are examined for clues that suggest extraterrestrial beings may have influenced humanity’s earliest beliefs and sacred writings. See more in this Ancient Aliens compilation. RE: Some more UFO stuff - babushka - 01-21-2026 "extraterrestrial beings may have influenced humanity’s earliest beliefs and sacred writings" humanity’s earliest...don't even joke, I'm going to call this deception. It's still ongoing at a massive scale Just look at the numbers and the dates Quote:Many miraculous cures are attributed to the Virgin of Guadalupe. About twenty million people a year visit the basilica of Guadalupe to gaze in transfixed awe at the wonderful and inexplicable life-size image on Juan Diego’s burlap-like tilma. Quote:Some accounts hold that the medal was not again reproduced until several years after the apparitions. But other documents accepted as official indicate that within the next two years (183233), fifty thousand were struck and given away or sold. In France five hundred thousand more had been sold by the autumn of 1834, two million by 1836, a million a year thereafter, and more than a billion had been sold worldwide by the time of Catherine’s death in December 1876. Quote:Officially accepted records indicate that the first inquiries regarding the apparition’s authenticity were not undertaken until 1836, but the medal had been approved for circulation in 1832, and by 1836 about two million had been sold. Quote:In 1906, the grotto and basilica were confiscated from the bishopric of Tarbes by the French state, and in 1910 ownership of it was transferred to the municipality of Lourdes. The first papal visit to the shrine of the apparition of Our Lady of the Grotto at Lourdes took place in 1982. The most famous healing shrine in the world, long since a vast and splendid place, is annually visited by over fifteen million people. Quote:Quicklime had been poured over their bodies due to the contagious properties of the influenza. Francisco’s remains were not found intact, but Jacinta’s body was found completely incorrupt, and was again found incorrupt in 1950. Even during World War II, over five hundred thousand people annually visited the shrine at Fátima. Since then it has been visited by as many as twenty million people each year. Quote:It was now far too late to suppress this apparition, and by September 1984, there had been only five days that the Holy Mother did not appear to the six seers. Millions of pilgrims from around the world were making their way to Medjugorje to attend the events there at a rate of about ten thousand a day. I personally have friends who have made the trek to Medjugorje as many as six times. By 1992 fifteen to twenty million people had made their way to the little remote village near the Podbrdo— with impressive economic benefits to the whole region. The Great Apparitions of Mary: An Examination of Twenty-Two Supranormal Appearances Ingo Swann "Sacred writings from the Stars | Ancient Aliens" plenty around of that today, bet there was even a couple written or recorded on youtube today. It doesn't really matter what time we go back to and the stories are still as crazy and all over as they where back then. RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 01-22-2026 Secret triangular but otherwise conventional (i.e. jet propelled) aircraft filmed flying over Area 51: . RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-23-2026 Brazil's First ALIEN ABDUCTION ENCOUNTER From 1939 In 1939 Minas Gerais, Brazil, miner Vicente Lucindo reports a terrifying UFO encounter involving a mysterious light, paralysis, humanoid beings, and a rotating flying saucer - an early alien abduction case almost a decade before the Roswell incident. Quote:The 1939 Extraterrestrial Encounter Of Vicente Lucindo Fairy Sighting in North Carolina | The Dunn North Carolina Coke Bottle Man. In October of 1976, two separate individuals reported seeing a tiny man, quote, "the size of a coke bottle", in the area of Dunn, North Carolina. Also around the area were sightings of strange things in the sky... RE: Some more UFO stuff - babushka - 01-23-2026 Objecting to the use of 'first alien abduction', it's the first since we started calling it that and had a frame of reference for aliens and space craft. The aliens only shows once we learn such things may exist? From AI Quote:Falling rocks from the sky (meteorites) became a generally accepted scientific phenomenon around 1803–1804. Before this time, mainstream European science largely dismissed reports of falling stones as folklore, volcanic, or superstitious nonsense, preferring to believe—based on Aristotelian philosophy and Newton’s physics—that interplanetary space was empty. https://www.meteorite.fr/en/basics/meteoritics.htm Quote:In 1802, Howard published the results of his analysis and his conclusions regarding the Wold Cottage incident, convincing a growing number of scientists that meteorites actually represent extraterrestrial matter falling from the sky. Maybe it's us that has changed and everything else is still as it was. RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-23-2026 Quote:Few military pilots have a career as distinguished as that of Lt. Colonel Ryan Bodenheimer. He flew 70 combat missions in Middle East conflict zones, was selected to join the elite Air Force Thunderbirds team, and spent hundreds of additional hours in the air as a commercial pilot. Until last summer, Bodenheimer, whose call sign is “Neo”, remained silent about his aerial encounters with UAP. Now, he feels like the stigma attached to UFO sightings by aviators has subsided to the point where he can share details about a staggering four different incidents involving strange objects he encountered in the skies, including one close call. In this episode of WEAPONIZED, Bodenheimer opens up to Jeremy and George about the objects he saw, what they might be, and why aerodynamics seemingly had nothing to do with their design. He also mentions his highly popular YouTube channel, “Max Afterburner”, which has half a million subscribers. RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-26-2026 Russian UFOs RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-28-2026 RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-28-2026 |