(11-22-2025, 04:26 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: I got my local apothecary to order some B1 for me; it will be there on Monday.  I'll let you know if my restless legs calm down at night.

(12-04-2025, 07:25 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Hi Kenzo,

  Been trying a small amount of B1 supplement the last week or so.

  Certainly not hurting me, and I feel a bit better.  I'll see how it goes.  Thanks for the tip.

(12-04-2025, 07:47 PM)rickymouse Wrote: Years ago I researched Thiamine.  I studied foods, and how much thiamine was in them.  You have to eat a lot of food to get what you need of thiamine from it.  I used to eat a lot when I worked and burned it off, but nowadays, I don't eat enough to get my needed amount.  So I started buying Decent vitamins and B supplements over fifteen years ago and although it is more expensive to buy the B-Rite, by getting enough B vitamins, my craving for meats and other things with these nutrients in it went down.  So maybe it costs me fifty cents a day for vitamins containing the B vitamins or multivitamins containing it, I quit eating so much since I get supplementation. Overall, the cost of the vitamins is probably a tenth of the savings of reducing the amount of meat I eat since then.

I spend about a buck a day total on supplements, buying them when there are good sales on Vitacost.  I keep bottles of them in stock in the basement, about six months in the rotation.  Some vitamins or supplements you cannot stock very long, because they degrade over time.  So those, I usually try to make it so I don't take them every day, so two bottles will last six months...ordering in the spring and fall usually for a half year supply

That buck a day for my supplements, thirty bucks a month max, is not that expensive, since it replaces about a couple of grand a month in pills to control my epilepsy and I now eat less than my wife and I have lots of energy.  But they do not help  with one thing, if I overexert myself with all the energy I have, I tend to get hurt doing dangerous things or just shoveling ten inches of heavy snow onto the snowbanks around the car and garage doors where I can't plow.  I also tend to get in trouble cutting down trees and making firewood and of course, hauling things around that way more than I now can lift since I am now seventy years old.  Yeah, it sucks to get old with the mindset of someone in their twenties...want to go out and do things...not normal socializing of seniors, I want to do physical work, spent a lot of time when I was young socializing...kind of tired of doing that everyday now.  The wife likes to do do stuff, she was sort of a recluse years ago.  Now she is turning into a social butterfly.  We eat better now that I cook things...she loves that I cook ninety percent of our meals now and mostly from scratch.  No use studying all the food chemistry and medical stuff if you eat highly prepared foods, one thing I find about studying pharma, medical research, and food chemistry is that all of food research agrees on one thing, Ultra processed food is not good for anyone. 

Frozen veggies are not highly processed, in fact they are better than the so called fresh ones in stores they sell, because the veggies are processed within a day most times, Talked to them at Libby's and DelMonte years ago when I lived in wisconsin.  Rented the upper half of a farmhouse with fields all over, my landlord grew veggies and sold them to canning and freezing companies. Both companies buyers stressed their  companies have the veggies processed within a day of picking....remember, these are not the cheapest veggies though.  They knew that the faster they processed them the better the taste and that they retained their nutrition too back then already.  I can't vouch for other companies and don't care for some brands of veggies that seem too good to be true like green giant.  Veggies don't taste like that when fresh.

But you would have to eat a real lot of food to get your daily supply of thiamine so supplementing even a hundred percent would be a good thing.  My pills have the mononitrate version I think.  I don't take the b complex if I eat a lot of meat, like within the thirty hours, I have eaten a pound of grass fed organic liver I made at lunch yesterday.  Now I probably got enough B vitamins out of that.  When I make bread, I also add a tablespoon of wheat germ to the organic whole wheat white Dakota Maid flour for the added flavor it gives the bread.  The dear and grandkids love my homemade bread...but the deer eat half of it when I make it.  It is cold outside, they like their bread toasted.  the doe loves butter on it, but the fawn doesn't like butter....the fawn was acting like it was burning it's mouth yesterday when I gave it a piece of toast....so today, I let it sit for a couple of minutes before tossing it out so it would not be hot.

You can enrich foods you make at home, and it is better to do it at home than to buy ultraprocessed foods with added chemicals to preserve it.


You do not need super expensive vitamins to get good quality vitamins.  Some are really expensive and cheaper brands are way better.  It took a lot of trial and error for me to learn how to tell what is good and what is not good and to evaluate price and worthiness of paying extra.  Very seldom do we use expensive brands, the wife's multivitamin is expensive, but it is probably worth it for her, Low Dog is involved in that formula, and she is a decent person, met her in person and talked to her and she has integrity, she would not let someone use her name to represent junk or overpriced products.  But just because she was trustworthy, does not mean she will stay that way all her life, so always beware that people can change and start believing in things that they are led to believe are true.