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Why Greenland - 727Sky - 01-07-2026
Quote:Greenland finds itself at the center of a lot of geopolitical attention. US President Donald Trump’s push to control it has sparked tension with NATO ally Denmark and reinforced Europe’s growing wariness that the US is no longer interested in their security. But why is the world suddenly so interested in this remote island in the far north? And what do the people in Greenland want for their own future? 00:00 Why Greenland's location matters 06:45 Melting ice opens economic opportunities 11:22 The complicated history with Denmark 12:48 What Greenland wants
RE: Why Greenland - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-08-2026
The United States offered to buy Greenland from Denmark in 1867, 1910, in 1946 for $100,000,000, 1955, 2019, and 2025. Denmark rejected all offers. Back in 1946 & 1955 it was all about defense against Russia.
One theory of many floating around today is Trump wants Greenland to build a missile defense system. Russian ICBMs sail over Greenland before coming into the USA.
Another theory is a projection of power of the Western hemisphere.
Another is to build a huge shipping port that the US of course will own and share with China & Russia once the wars are over. Trump is going to make some sort of deal with China this year. Likely given he's traveling to Beijing in April and another trip later this year.
I have no idea and not sure about any of those theories.
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RE: Why Greenland - Kenzo1 - 01-08-2026
The reason is not security as Denmark would allow U.S to build military bases in Greenland . This is something else , and that is being dump motherfucker and think stealing from neighbor is okey , imperialistic mind set .
Danish troops have law from 1952 that require immediately counter-attack invading forces without awaiting orders. This mean if U.S will send forces to Greenland to invade it by force , the danish troops are then oblicated to respond .
Denmark has been strong U.S and Nato ally long long time . This type of backstabbing against ally is dumbest shit ever . Greenland is not like some third world communist shithole which kills and torture citizens .
Maybe Trump wants to end NATO , which would also be dumb move .
The stubid mindset Trump has is no different that of Chinese sending their agressive floating ships to bullying other neighbors in South China Sea and beyond . The man has no class , no style and no basic manners .
RE: Why Greenland - Chiefsmom - 01-08-2026
It's all about the rare earth minerals.
Same with Venezuela.
(besides the threat of China, Iran and Russia playing together on that playground)
RE: Why Greenland - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-11-2026
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RE: Why Greenland - Ninurta - 01-11-2026
I still find it amazing that anyone takes this Greenland thing seriously.
There's nothing there but ice and Eskimos. They don't even have penguins. The population of the entire ice-covered mess is about the same as the single dinky town of Terre Haute, IN... and I think Terre Haute has at least a couple of penguins.
So, it's not for the tax revenue. We'd spend a damned sight more there than we could ever possibly take in in taxes. Narwhal tusks are hard to sell these days, and they don't trade well, either.
It's not for the military applications - we've already got a military base there, and can build more on a second's notice.
It's not for the rare earth minerals - they're all covered under miles of ice that no one can figure out how to get through to get to the minerals.
Let's face some facts: no one has ever wanted anything to do with Greenland other than Eskimos and exiled Vikings who had been kicked out of everywhere else in Scandinavia - they sailed until they found a place where there was no one else to kick them out... and all the Vikings died out long ago.
So what IS it for?
I giggle every time I see anyone taking it seriously enough to take that bait. Every time I hear "Greenland" now, I start giggling and wondering just who Trump is trying to gaslight, and why. The ONLY thing that makes any sense to me is that Trump is trying to rattle someone's cage - either that, or he's building a distraction so that they don't notice something else he's doing somewhere else.
Don't worry, Eskimos. The big ugly U.S. is not gonna come barging in and force you to trade your seal blubber for tofu anytime soon...
... but you'd better keep an eye on what the Right hand is doing while the Left hand is distracting you in Greenland.
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RE: Why Greenland - Michigan Swamp Buck - 01-11-2026
I agree with Ninurta, we don't need to own Greenland to be their buddy. We could build more bases and defensive systems, put in a port, sail around, and patrol that area without buying the island.
It's not like we need the land area or can cheaply colonize such an environment. It's not some huge tourist destination, the ice and arctic conditions make exploiting their resources difficult, and I don't think their economy is such that we want a finger in their pie chart.
We can actively deter Russia and China without making Greenland feel cheap and used by offering to buy her like some street corner whore. "We can't we be friends?" I think it is as simple as that, buddy up to Denmark while we are at it, maybe we can make some deals with them other than offering money to buy it.
Get real cozy with Greenland's people and culture. Maybe we can send thousands of tourists there to get friendly with the locals and spend money, so much money that we flood their market. Our currency could be the main one if we sent tourists there and paid them like the democrats pay their ground forces to demonstrate, except we could send them to party and spend money. If enough sex happens, we can actually become related to the native population and have family ties.
RE: Why Greenland - Ninurta - 01-11-2026
I've known some Danes. Many were pretty arrogant, some were not at all arrogant, but all could be turned to friends pretty easily, because they are a logical, rational , intelligent folk. I see no reason to insult them AND spend more money than necessary on Greenland when "the art of the deal" could be brought into play and they could be won over.
Now, Trump may be contemplating leaving NATO, and he may be of the opinion that could set the Danes off somewhat, but I believe even that could be accomplished, and the Danes kept on friendly terms in spite of it, with just a little work... and we could save the money we would have otherwise spent trying to buy a patch of their land.
I don't know how it came to be in possession of Denmark in the first place, but I'm guessing that had something to do with either religion or trade - it was not settled by Danes, it was settled by a Norwegian Viking who had been exiled first from Norway for bad behavior, and then again exiled from Iceland, also for allegedly bad behavior. Erik was exiled from Iceland for killing another man who had killed his slaves in an act of retribution. Whether you believe that to be "bad behavior" is a matter for your own conscience, but evidently the Icelanders considered it as such.
His only choice after that was to head west and find an unclaimed patch of land that he could claim for himself without fear of someone else exiling him from that, too.
Denmark came into possession of the land much later, I would hazard the guess that it was either a matter of religion or of trade. Whichever it was, or whether some other mechanism, once a Crown gets hold of a patch of land, even unproductive land such as Greenland, they are loathe to turn loose of it. Most of the Crowns of Europe have fought entire wars over less provocation.
Maybe Trump considers Panama to be a cautionary tale - we paid to build the canal AND paid to lease it thereafter, but dumbass Jimmy Carter just up and GAVE it away to our enemies and broke the lease early... and we never even got a refund for the balance unused. There is a chance Trump is leery of friendships, in case some fresh new dumbass comes along after him and endangers US interests like Carter did.
Now, there is little doubt that we could thump Denmark in a war, and provoke a crisis in NATO at the same time, but why do so - why make enemies when you can instead strengthen friendships by using just a tiny bit of art?
As they say in Old Blighty, "that just isn't Cricket!" Then again, I believe Trump prefers golf to cricket, so who the hell knows what wanders around in the echoing halls of his mind sometimes?
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In the matter of NATO, I've been an advocate for some time in a US withdrawal from NATO. It no longer serves the purpose it was built for, and has not served that purpose in years. The conditions that created and sustained it no longer prevail - there is no USSR any more, there is no Warsaw Pact any more, and whomever runs the place got all manner of stupid and started inviting in members that had no business in NATO to begin with - members like Turkey, and members like former Warsaw Pact enemy nations. None of those have any business in NATO, and especially in the case of Turkey, are actually extremely counter-productive as members.
On top of that, the EU has been feeling it's oats, and has gone into compacts of it's own like the EU, so I think it's time to cut it loose from US apron strings and let it run and frolic freely on it's own to either sink or swim as it sees fit to do. That doesn't mean we have to be enemies of the EU, it just means our national interests have changed over time and in many areas diverged from one another.
For example, the EU likes poking bears with short sticks, and a couple of the nations are even discussing putting their own one and only lives on the line by sending troops into the Ukraine, into a fight that is not theirs to fight. Well, more power to 'em if they do, but why should the US allow them to drag US into a fight that is not ours just because they want to involve themselves in a fight that is not theirs either? It's like having a kid brother that picks fights just because he knows that if he gets into more than he can handle, his big brother is going to haul his fat out of the fire, every time. Big brothers sometimes get tired of that crap from bruising their own knuckles up just because the kid can't stay in his own damned lane.
It's not that we should never support Europe, it's just that we should not be obligated to save them if they pick a fight and then find out they bit off more than they can chew. Entering such a mess should be our decision, rather than an automatic obligation, especially when national interests are divergent, and there is no benefit in entering the fray.
So, yeah, I believe US involvement in NATO is way past it's sell-by date. We can always cut a deal individually with Denmark for a stake in Greenland without invoking NATO.
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RE: Why Greenland - 727Sky - 01-12-2026
Quote:Greenland, an icy treasure trove rich in rare earth metals and oil, has become a focal point of global attention. Recently, a high-stakes geopolitical struggle is unfolding over its resources and control. U.S. President Donald Trump has proposed purchasing Greenland, with one of his primary motivations being to drive out Russian and Chinese influence in the Arctic.
China is already mining Greenland resources
RE: Why Greenland - F2d5thCav - 01-13-2026
Had to laugh while reading Germany is organizing a NATO mission to protect Greenland.
From Trump. The witless ones in Berlin weren't concerned about what the Russians or Chinese may have in mind for that territory.
From Third Reich to Turd-Like in 80 years.
RE: Why Greenland - Ninurta - 01-13-2026
(01-13-2026, 02:11 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Had to laugh while reading Germany is organizing a NATO mission to protect Greenland.
From Trump. The witless ones in Berlin weren't concerned about what the Russians or Chinese may have in mind for that territory.
From Third Reich to Turd-Like in 80 years.
I hard about that just yesterday. What I heard was that Germany, France, and the UK were all three sending military troops to defend Greenland against the Big Ugly Americans. If that's so, then I'd call it mission accomplished - NATO is already fracturing when parts of NATO send their troops to fight other parts of NATO.
It's just more evidence of just how far our objectives in starting NATO to begin with have diverged over time, more evidence that NATO is past it's sell-by date.
All 3 of those nations have fought against the Americans before, and all 3 of them have fought along side the Americans before, so they ought to have a good idea of just what they are up against, and just how bad the marks it leaves are gonna hurt. BUT - a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, even if it leaves NATO as a concept in a heap of smoking slag. The UK and Germany in particular are no slouches when it comes to war, but we've all managed to survive and heal from our previous scuffles, and we all will again... but NATO itself will not be so lucky. It won't survive the internal fracturing.
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RE: Why Greenland - 727Sky - 01-13-2026
After WW2 with America the only country with a functioning productive war time economy and the know how to produce Nukes plus the ability to deliver them maybe just maybe America was to nice to it's once so called allies (Russia) and all the other enemy axis powers they defeated . But you can't say that in civilized conversations as Patton learned the hard way.
RE: Why Greenland - gortex - 01-17-2026
Quote:US President Donald Trump has said he will impose a 10% tariff on countries which have opposed his plans to take over Greenland.
As protesters took to the streets across Denmark opposing the takeover, Trump named eight European countries, including the UK, saying tariffs would apply to "any and all goods" sent to the US from 1 February.
The duty will then rise to 25% at the beginning of June unless, he said, a "deal is reached for the Complete and Total US purchase of Greenland".
He and Putin like peas in a pod , sad for America.
RE: Why Greenland - 727Sky - 01-18-2026
The E.U. big headline show of force but the Devil is in details !! hahahaha
RE: Why Greenland - Ninurta - 01-18-2026
I've heard two conflicting stories on the European troops going to Greenland. One is that they are going there to "fight the US", and the other is that they are going there to "assist the US in actions against Russia and China". I don't know which is true, and don't much care. It's not a place I'd go to voluntarily - it's more like the Rura Penthe Klingon penal colony out of Star Trek.
Norway sent 2 troopers to the Greenland "coalition of the willing".
TWO.
Germany is sending 18.
So far, that's a grand total of 20 troops to thwart the entire US military ambition. Seems like they may have an overinflated opinion of their military prowess.
Maybe the Germans are only going there to keep the French contingent in line. 18 Germans would probably be enough. If they run into trouble with that task, the Norwegians will doubtless be of immense assistance.
I've not heard how many Frenchmen or Englishmen are being sent. Might be enough to double the entire contingent to about a heavy platoon strength...
And it's STILL much ado about nothing, a bar-room brawl among alleged "friends" over a goddamned ice cube.
Wonders never cease. I'm still looking in other directions... ANY other directions... for what's really going on behind that Greenland facade.
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RE: Why Greenland - p358 - 01-18-2026
Rumors (conspiracy theories) from as far back as the 70s would have a very large city buried under the ice sheets.
That is where the rumors separate into two.
One is a US base built with ultra secrecy and the other is of an ancient city that shouldn't be there.
I think we may find out soon. Is this going to be a conspiracy theory turning into conspiracy fact.
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RE: Why Greenland - gortex - 01-18-2026
(01-18-2026, 05:38 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I've heard two conflicting stories on the European troops going to Greenland. One is that they are going there to "fight the US", and the other is that they are going there to "assist the US in actions against Russia and China". I don't know which is true, and don't much care. It's not a place I'd go to voluntarily - it's more like the Rura Penthe Klingon penal colony out of Star Trek.
Norway sent 2 troopers to the Greenland "coalition of the willing".
TWO.
Germany is sending 18.
So far, that's a grand total of 20 troops to thwart the entire US military ambition. Seems like they may have an overinflated opinion of their military prowess.
Maybe the Germans are only going there to keep the French contingent in line. 18 Germans would probably be enough. If they run into trouble with that task, the Norwegians will doubtless be of immense assistance.
I've not heard how many Frenchmen or Englishmen are being sent. Might be enough to double the entire contingent to about a heavy platoon strength...
And it's STILL much ado about nothing, a bar-room brawl among alleged "friends" over a goddamned ice cube.
Wonders never cease. I'm still looking in other directions... ANY other directions... for what's really going on behind that Greenland facade.
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Sending troops to Greenland isn't about fighting America it's about sending a message to America , numbers are irrelevant at this point.
Just as with his illegal intervention in Venezuela trump's interest in Greenland is about resources.
Quote:Nonetheless, Greenland possesses an impressive array of critical minerals, from traditional commodities such as copper, lead, and zinc that have been mined on a small scale in ice-free coastal areas since 1780, to modern critical minerals essential for energy and defense technologies.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/dispatches/greenlands-critical-minerals-require-patient-statecraft/#:~:text=Nonetheless%2C%20Greenland%20possesses%20an%20impressive,for%20energy%20and%20defense%20technologies.
Imposing 10% tariffs on your long term allies because they disagree with your course of action is not the action of a leader of the free world they are that of a dictatorship , I cannot and will not support that.
I think the threat to Greenland could be little more than Trump finding an excuse to pull America out of NATO , squabbling between the US and its allies only benefits Russia and China.
RE: Why Greenland - 727Sky - 01-18-2026
Quote:Sending troops to Greenland isn't about fighting America it's about sending a message to America , numbers are irrelevant at this point.
Just as with his illegal intervention in Venezuela trump's interest in Greenland is about resources.
I guess we could have sent another angry letter to Venezuela asking them to stop supporting Cuba with oil and money and please do not send any more drug boats to America or oil to China. That seems to be the way of the current leadership philosophy of the Muslim ran woke west these days.
Well I do not see Trump playing nice with a bunch of woke children either way. I figure he will just take his ball home and say enough with these spoiled brats who can not honestly see the threat China and now their Mini-Me Russia poses to world peace via the arctic.
The whole take-over of Greenland does not make much sense to me as Greenland has been a very strong supporter of USA policies. They even had troops in Afghanistan as support of our FUBAR policy in that country; so far, to my limited knowledge Greenland has never refused a USA request.
Another belt and road project just killed over 30 people when their sky crane collapsed upon a speeding train. Everything China touches turns to shit due to corruption; not to mention the involuntary organ donorships of their own people as if their lives did not suck enough already. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i0nysn7xpjY?feature=share
Iceland will be interesting as I read or was told one of the offers under consideration is either 10,000 or 100,000$ to ever man woman and child https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VuiLmoRnGEc?feature=share
RE: Why Greenland - gortex - 01-18-2026
Quote:I guess we could have sent another angry letter to Venezuela asking them to stop supporting Cuba with oil and money and please do not send any more drug boats to America or oil to China. That seems to be the way of the current leadership philosophy of the Muslim ran woke west these days.
The fact of the matter is that kidnapping the leader of another Country is illegal under International law mate the wrongs or rights of the action will be played out in the coming weeks , months and years , regime change by external force rarely ends well , this one seems to be driven more by desire for resources not drugs.
RE: Why Greenland - 727Sky - 01-18-2026