(12-11-2025, 09:26 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Then there are the renaissance era paintings that clearly depict oval, metallic craft in the sky. Debunkers claim these are "angels" etc. -- laughable and desperate.
People have been seeing the edge of unreality for a long time.
Both things can be true. It's not debunkers claiming it's angels etc, it's people with experience.