Make war , not love

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Iran has not attacked Israel.

They promise that they will and that they will 'wipe Israel off the map'.
Why don't you take them at their word?
Why do you want to wait until they do what they promised instead of allowing for self protection before the disaster?

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Iran does not have nukes, but they claim they have the right to the enrichment of uranium for other purposes.

And you buy that?   They aren't enriching for 'other purposes'.  They have deep underground bunkers that they are using for enrichment.  You don't do that for 'other purposes'.   And they refuse inspections.  You don't do that for 'other purposes'.

It's not about the nukes, it's about Israel's aggressive military expansion in the region, with the USA being promised the spoils of war. It's disgusting.

It's only normal for other countries to take up arms to protect themselves.

Double standards.

"Israel's stated military and political actions—particularly in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and parts of Syria and Lebanon—have fueled widespread international concern about long-term territorial ambitions.  The concept of "Greater Israel", rooted in historical Zionist ideology and expanded by figures like Theodor Herzl and later plans such as Oded Yinon’s 1982 strategy, envisions a Jewish state stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates, including territories in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq"

https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongo...th-africa/

This seems more achievable now with the USA stepping in to do the heavy lifting.

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Take this as you find it.

Yes, I "took it as I found it". I found it to be about 6 months old, so probably not applicable to the current conflict It probably wasn't very accurate even for the previous conflict it was attempting to address - if what the guy said was true just 8 months ago, there would be no Tel Aviv left now for Iran to send missiles into in the current conflict.

I was a little puzzled as to why he was so vehemently propagandistic against Israel, but all was revealed at the very end of the video. He apparently runs some sort of organization to uncover "injustices" against Arabs. That pretty much explained everything to me. He's not really your average "disinterested observer", he's got skin in the game.

The video you posted before this one... I tried to watch it. I really did. I couldn't get more than about 2 minutes into it, though. That "game theory" propagandist guy really sets my spidey senses to tingling. I can't watch very much of him any more, because he clogs up my BS detector. If he ever said anything at all that could be independently verified, it would possibly be a different matter, but there is only so much talking out of one's posterior that I can take... so I only got a couple minutes into that video, and have no idea what else he might have been trying to say. He is not worthy of my attention.

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My Dear Old Dad used to tell me "believe nothing that you hear, and only half of what you see with your own eyes". Right now, the propaganda is flying fast and thick from both sides of the conflict. Iranian propagnda is usually easier to spot, since they tend to inflate numbers beyond carrying capacity. Propaganda from the US/Israeli side is harder to detect, but it's still there. They tend to keep their numbers more reasonable, but use phraseology calculated to pull at heart strings when they are propagandizing.

For example, if you hear an Israeli source mention "the terroristic Iranian regime", you can be pretty sure that what follows is going to be propaganda. There is no reason to specify "terroristic" other than as an appeal to emotion - everyone hates terrorists, right? The fact is the Clerics have kept their hands pretty clean. They employ and support terrorists, but are not, generally speaking, terrorists themselves. They have neither the testicular fortitude nor the willpower to carry out any terrorism themselves. They employ underlings for those baser activities.

Likewise, if a person can find nothing good to say concerning their opponent, nothing at all, they are probably spewing propaganda. They can't afford to say anything good, because they are balls-to-the-wall trying to demonize them. The fact of that matter is that if one cannot find any respect for their opponent at all, then they are punching way below their weight. They are, effectively, beating up relative children.

One has to have some degree of respect for their opponent in order for that opponent to even be worthy of their attention. If not, then they are dragging themselves down to the same level as that unworthy opponent, making unworthy opponents of themselves.

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What was worthy of my attention is he was reiterating what others have reiterated about Israel during the Gaza genocidal bombings, that Israel hides the truth from their people. This I believe to be fact.

I also thank you for your advice in keeping an eye out for all parties' propaganda, which I try to do, but within these types of forums, Israel's Zionist government always seems to get a pass.

An interesting discussion on accepting independent or alternate news reports or refusing to accept it. It may be that some people who can't accept the other side of the reality can be accused of supporting Imperialism or are authoritarian apologists. One thing for sure, is no military faction will tell the truth as to the level of devastation that was inflicted on them by their enemy.