Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off

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Clandestine always makes you think and go hmmm

Clandestine
@WarClandestine

Hear me out.

Trump called out Germany, South Korea, and Japan, for not willing to help with the Strait of Hormuz. What do these nations have in common? They are where we have the largest standing military presence outside the US.

I think Trump is not just setting up a withdrawal from NATO, I think he is setting up a withdrawal of our military presence around the globe, and will eventually begin the process of consolidating US MIL presence to the Western Hemisphere, once we are done with Iran and the war in Ukraine is over.

I think the end goal is normalized relations with Russia and China, and thus the permanent end to the Cold War that never really ended. This is only possible by removing US military presence off of China and Russia’s doorstep, as well as ending Russian/Chinese meddling in our hemisphere, via places like Venezuela and Cuba, which is already happening.

What if the US, Russia, and China, just agreed to stop the espionage, weapons of mass destruction, proxy wars, and meddling in each other’s regions? What if the superpowers were on the same side instead of against each other?

It’s possible, and things seem to be inching in that direction. Russia and China are losing their influence in the Western Hemisphere, and Trump is posturing like he is going to remove our presence in the Eastern Hemisphere.

I think we are witnessing a restructure of the global order, and the global “alliances” as we know them are about to shift dramatically.

That sounds like a fine idea to me. Get the hell out of NATO (which I've been bitching about ever since the Soviet Union collapsed), and restructure all of our alliances to include only those allies who have proven to be allies. Who needs an "ally" that says "naw, bud, we're siting this out - but you go get 'em, Tiger!"?

Pulling back to the western hemisphere sounds a fine idea to me, too. The world is a mess. Always has been, always will be. I see no reason that the US should have to continually straighten the whole thing out while the rest just skate. Pulling back to just the western hemisphere halves our "responsibilities", and would allow us to concentrate on relationship building within the reach of our own arms rather than having to hug the whole damned planet.

If the eastern hemisphere wants a peaceful back yard, they can get up off their own damned asses and yell at the kids to settle down They've been able to rely on the US to do it for too damned long, and then have the effrontery to bitch about how, when, or why we do it while they just sit on their asses and watch. It'd be good for their blood circulation to have to stir around a bit.

With the Iron Lady at the helm, Japan is capable of holding their own. No particular reason we should keep hanging out there. Same goes for Germany. South Korea has been bitching to get the US out for decades now. The people that is, not necessarily the government. Give 'em what they want. Walk away and don't look back. they're big kids now, they can handle their own crap.

I don't necessarily mean alienate them, though. Maintain cordial relations as they are allowed, maybe some trade too, but there is no particular reason we should be sinking all of our military money into their defense... especially if they don't particularly want that defense.

Just pull back into our own back yard.

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Like the famous early NATO quote If NATO is still here in ten years, NATO failed

For the money Uncle Sam spent on being NATO's muscle, a better education system, no taxes, a base on the moon or Mars