(03-05-2026, 01:20 PM)quintessentone Wrote: IG wrote: "Light could be some kind of 'carrier' of sort?"
Light definitely is being used as a carrier and I'm not too sure this is where our photons/energies will end up...on an unsteerable beam of light, or can we hitch a ride on a beam of light without knowing where it will land, or will we know where it will end up?
"In essence, light doesn’t "carry" data like a container; instead, information is encoded in the light’s physical characteristics, which are then detected and decoded at the receiving end"
https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/06/...s-of-data/
Thinking back on my OBE, I was in control whether to travel or float above the Earth. But then terror set in right away, so I returned to my body.
So I'm now thinking it may have something to do with dark energy being the catalyst or rather the carrier for our photons which may possess imprints of our memories of our lives from here - whatever this is. the carrier could be something else that I can't fathom.
Dark energy composes 68% of total mass-energy of the cosmos and drives the expansion of the universe. Doesn't this make sense with the birth and death of energies from all sources which is never destroyed but rather is transformed and yet it has to go somewhere (?)
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Haven't read much about dark energy, however, there is an interesting account in the 8th post of The Gut's thread Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology :
Quote:"7/7/60. Afternoon. This was an experiment I don't want to try again. I was in the charged Faraday cage [copper screen mesh, above ground, D.C. charge: 50 kv. I got out of the physical (body). Ok, then I seemed to be entangled in a large bag made of flexible wire.*Italics mine
The bag gave when I pushed against it, but I couldn't get through it. I struggled like a trapped animal in a snare, and finally went back into the physical. In thinking it over, quite evidently it was not the wire itself, but the electric field pattern set up in fundamentally the same shape as the cage, but more flexible. Maybe this could be the basis for a 'ghost-catcher'!
10/30/60. At about three-fifteen I lay down with the intent of going to visit E.W. in his house some five miles distant. After some difficulty, I managed to move into the vibrational state, then out into the room, away from the physical.
With mental aim at E.W. I took off and moved slowly (comparatively.) I suddenly found myself over a busy street, moving slowly about twenty-five feet above the sidewalk (just above the top edge of the second-story windows). I recognized the street to be the main street of the town, and recognized the block and corner over which I passed. I drifted along the sidewalk for several minutes, and noticed a filling station on the corner, where a white car had both wheels off in front of the two open grease rack doors.
I was disappointed in that I had not gone to E.W., my destination. Seeing nothing else of interest, I decided to return to the physical, and did so without incident. Upon return I sat up and tried to analyze why I had not gone where I intended. On an impulse I got up, went down to the garage, and drove the five miles to his town. My thought was at least to make the trip profitable, and check on what I saw.
I got to the same corner on Main Street, and there was the white car in front of the two open doors. Little evidential pieces like that help! I looked up at the approximate position I had been over the sidewalk, and got a surprise. At just about the exact height I had floated over the sidewalk were power primaries containing fairly high voltage electrical current. Do electrical fields attract this second body? Is this the medium through which it travels?"
The above excerpt, as noted in the thread, comes from the book Ufos Psychic Close Encounters: The Electromagnetic Indictment
Speaking of "second body" carriers, electrical fields seem to at least influence its spacial features. But would they also affect temporal features? Or could another carrier, or a mix of, affects such?
(03-05-2026, 01:20 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I don't think the realm (the 'all') where our energies go is unsteerable because then I and other family members would never have received messages from family members from the beyond, so I can't deny an afterlife.
Although, having said that, the after death messages from family members were received with days after their death, so now the question arises does the spirit take days to realize it is set free and then is free to contact the living before it takes (chooses?) a journey/path?
Some say unbelievers of an afterlife should not be cremated until after three days to one week after death to given the spirit time to accept their new transformation.
I don't think I had an OBE, as far as I can remember. The closest in experience I have, I assume, is flying in a dream, although I'd also remain cautious about differences from the bona fide experience.
Here's a link to the page 3 of a thread made by ATS member KellyPrettyBear, of which I participated at the time. The following page contains an interesting idea about death :
Quote:"IgnorantGod :
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
Tricksters playing gods, and aircraft, and snakes, and demons.
Never end, always changing trends.
I guess they want some influence for whatever reasons benefit them.
But some humans want it to be "nuts and bolts", for whatever reasons benefit them.
I don't know the truth, but imho Truth with the big 'T' is a None value; it merely gives a foundation for truths to be assumed."
"KellyPrettyBear :
a reply to: IgnorantGod
Let's postulate that when a human dies, some 'EM remnant' survives, and perhaps congregates with similar remnants or with other life forms.
If that were true, we'd be 'punking ourselves' with 'UFOs' more than anything.
That would explain ALL the erratic behavior.
If that were true.
Kev"
"Phage :
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
We are heavily outnumbered by dead people.
15:1, therebouts.
This figure does not allow for recycling."
The conversation continues further, but what's in quote is enough for this reply. That is, if at death, some 'remnants' of a human consciousness could somehow 'linger around' provided there were some 'strong emotional attachments' or something?
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...